Hello boys,

I would like to know which turbo kit actually works on COOPER S without problems. I need a car for daily driving so I can not afford problems with it.

Any suggestions?

 

apparently the alta twurbo does fine and has potential for a whole lot of power if you want to keep it going with more mods later on

 

a friend of mine had the alta kit installed and his exhaust head kept cracking. While Alta replaced it 2 or 3 times, the problem never went away and he ended up custom fabricating one himself...which has worked without a problem since. The kit makes great power, but seems to be plagued with reocurring problems.

I would look into the Helix kit. http://www.helix13.com/mini/products/engine-intake scroll down the page a bit

 

Are you talking about turbo only? The kits mentioned above are "Twincharge". A turbo only conversion would be close to 10k, to do it right, maybe more. Turbo only would technically be more reliable since youd be pushing 1/3 the boost through the engine, but many people have run twincharge without issues.

 

factory cars have issues... there is no such thing as a problem free system... sometimes there things happen... the diff with factory is you can drop it off and let them handle it... I have had a pretty easy life with my TC... even drove her accross the USA non stop... (other than gas/food)

if you are not willing to deal with the potential issues that come with the mod... I recommend getting a car with the kinda power you are looking for that is factory... :D

 

Which TC system are you using?

 

Started with the SPI ... but at this point it's all mine... totally custom.. I had it customised from the get go... knowing where I wanted to go... but then kept modding it till I got it to where it is now... FMIC and all....

 

woot!! FMIC FTW!!!

 

wwwoooot!

 

This is the experience in my area as well. One MC and two MCS with turbo kits, none running well, more work needed, lots of $$$ invested.

You must be prepared to make the investment, deal with the problems, and invest more $$$. It will take time to make it run and custom tuning is very helpful.

 

Sorry, I am looking for turbo compresor kit. So the eaton stay on my car.

First of all I must tell the driving style here in the start of Italian Alps is much much different like in the US are. I have been there for a while and you (I do not how you drive) drives very slow (speed limits). Here is different.
We pushing our cars much more than I see there in US. 14 days ago we go with other few mini's to the alps. That was hard. First, second, third gear always we go to the limit.

So I need the feedback for that part of turbo. I do not drive like I was drive in US. I drive here much faster.

Like I said maybe you too drive fast and your opinion can help me, but you must tell me that.

Now I have a few mods on the car and I haven't got any trouble with it. Just work perfectly with my pulley, W2A intercooler and that stuff. The car also do some more miles per galon with new setup comparing to the original one and isn't it as slow but still to slow for me.

 

Well.......I run a full turbo conversion system built and installed by Hubie and the Fireballed crew...... 10k problem free miles other than a Apexi taking a bit of a dump...... Daily driven......18lbs.....300whp.....=grins and my son always asking me to "drive fast daddy!!"......

oh and FMIC FTMFW

 

Ha ha yer right... most people here shouldnt even BE driving as it's the reason we have so many accidents...

I grew up on the track and drive hard... most peopel think I drive fast... I tell them, "no, I brake less than you do" which is ussually true...

TC is twincharged... which is also a turbo compressor... that's what I am running

I wouldnt change it... I love it... I have a hard time thinking about having less than the power I do...

I would love to take her to Italia with all those crazy roads!

 

I will be in Italy the entire month of November....can I get a ride?

 

check out the season 10 episode on of Top Gear.... searching for the greatest driving road on earth... and ofcourse... it's in....

 

Turbo kompressors are nuts. Crazy amounts of power, though I've only heard about them. Anyone want to give me a ride someday? Better yet, let me drive a bit.

 

On the original topic.....

The two key to any turbo kit installation is;
1.) Tuning tuning tuning
2.) Installation installation installation

For a long time there was never a satisfactory tuning solution for the Twurbo kit. You either had to make due with a fuel controller like the Apexi AFC or a full wire in standalone that is above most peoples head and wallet.

Now we have a Plug In stand alone available, Hydra
and
A plug in piggy back that can do adjustments to both timing and fuel.

 

Alta- I have done some reading about the Hydra units and have talked to Jeff Perrin about using it. I am still having a hard time understanding exactly where it falls into ranking with other systems. Like; Apexi AFC(what Tuls uses), or a stand alone like AEM's EMS(a vendor on here)
The way I look at it is this, and please correct me where I am at fault.
The Hydra for the Mini Cooper S is the end all unit for AFCs. What I mean is that you still get to keep all of the factory computer's technology to run all of the stock gauges etc..., but you get to run the rest of the car like a stand alone ecu. And the difference between the Hydra and a stand alone is that the stand alone requires a custom wiring harness.
Please correct me and explain what ever I understand wrongly.
I am torn between a Hydra, AEM, and a Motec for stand alones. Other wise I might just go for the AFC like Tuls has.

Thanks, Chris.

 

I've ran a couple of Hydra's on 300whp+ Subaru's. The hydra is a stand-alone, meaning you take out the stock ECU and use it as a paperweight, plug the Factory harness that was plugged into your ECU into the Hydra and use the hydra to fully control all your factory sensors, etc.

So you car is running solely on the input from the Hydra. Whereas a piggyback attempts to intercept signals to the stock ecu and re-transmit them with modified values, allowing you to keep stock drivability but also increase power with better air-fuel ratios and additional timing.

 

considering the fact that alot of the DIY turbo/TC kits take slot of $$$ to get them working, how about an engine transplant???

i have started a thread here (and on another mini forum) about it https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=118984

just wondering if there is a more financially sound/better option to make the same power as the TCor turbo only routes.

what you guys think???

Chris.

PS. the above idea also means you could do it to a MC or the MCS. ithe cooper option would increase the market potential and mean the power per pound would be cheaper as the MC is cheaper to start with.

 

With all the custom work required you'd be looking at the same end price probably. And then, you still have to mod the swapped engine. It's more probably more convenient to go turbo only and push 400+whp, w/e you want.

I too would like to know about the Hydra and exactly how it works as I'll be going twincharge at some point, albeit probably not soon, but oh well...

 

sko- Thank you for clearing up what exactly it has done on your Subis, now to only find the exact info from Alta about the success in the mini.

 

I would love to eventually run a twincharge kit, however that is something that is not in the near future as it is rather costly and is not something that can be done bit by bit as finances roll in. I so want to ride in a TC'd mini and experience what it feels like...