ICE is nice!!
Originally Posted by Yucca Patrol
I wouldn't bother using a clay bar on an essentially brand new car. You'll almost certainly get excellent results with the ICE on that new paint. Make sure you have enough microfiber towels for buffing. I used a bunch of them to get our two MINI's looking nICE
Yep, I bought 24 at Costco last night...should be enough for one MINI I would think
So rinse, wash with dawn, dry, then 2 or 3 coats of the Ice wax should be good? I might pick up the Ice quick detailer too...
Considering how easy it is to use the actual ICE, I think I will just add more coats of ICE than use the quick detailer. I swear that I've spent as much time using QD as I have doing the real ICE.
Originally Posted by Smokey
I'd be interested in seeing a shot of the black trim in a few days. I'm thinking white wax residue.............
Originally Posted by Yucca Patrol
I wouldn't bother using a clay bar on an essentially brand new car. You'll almost certainly get excellent results with the ICE on that new paint. Make sure you have enough microfiber towels for buffing. I used a bunch of them to get our two MINI's looking nICE
) Even though the paint was new and had been cleaned several times a week (with Ice), I still had enough grunge on the bonnet to leave a black film on the clay. The sides and rear were clean, but any horizontal surface was definitely contaminated (I have a cabrio, so I didn't do the roof, but I bet it would have been dirty too).Seriously, I'd go ahead and Ice it, but I really do suggest getting some clay as soon as you can, if you're serious about keeping a good shine. When I was done claying, the extra shine was indeed noticable...
Ice questions
I'm getting my new car on monday Sept 21, 2006. I'm definatlly planning on useing ice on it.
QUESTIONS::
1) It seems from previous post that putting on 2 or more layers makes it shine more?
2) How many coats can you put on before there are negative effects? If any negatives with too many coats what are they?
3) Also, if I understand correctly, when you want to remove the Ice you use blue dawn and it gets rid of it, Is there anyway to tell when it is all off or at least good enough?
4) What about chrome, is it good to get iced too?
5)Any more thoughts about doing the wheels?
PERSONAL NOTE::
You guys kick major ***. I have learned so much by going over your post.
QUESTIONS::
1) It seems from previous post that putting on 2 or more layers makes it shine more?
2) How many coats can you put on before there are negative effects? If any negatives with too many coats what are they?
3) Also, if I understand correctly, when you want to remove the Ice you use blue dawn and it gets rid of it, Is there anyway to tell when it is all off or at least good enough?
4) What about chrome, is it good to get iced too?
5)Any more thoughts about doing the wheels?
PERSONAL NOTE::
You guys kick major ***. I have learned so much by going over your post.
Do you mean Ice WAX or Ice DETALING SPRAY? There are two diferent products under the same name (sort opf as PITA), so please specify.
As far as detailing spray is concerned, two coats don't seem any shinier than 1 - the spray is more a lubricant than anyhting else. I've not used the Ice wax, though - I use Meguiar's Gold Class and I've been pretty impressed so far. Opinions on wax are very varied in here though, with some people preferring certain brands, but in the end, almost any good name-brand wax should give you good results if applied properly (and will be better than the way it came out of the dealership in any case).
And yes, a Dawn wash will strip off almost any wax you have currently on the car, synthetic or natural. Just use a squirt in a 5 gallon bucket and it should suffice. Follow up with a clay barring after the wash to remove any contaminents embedded in the clear coat, then top it off with the wax of your choice. Unless you wan to get REALLY tricky (layering multiple coats of synthetic wax topped off with natural carnuba, like they do on show cars), simply washing properly, claying and waxing every few months will keep the car looking really nice.
As far as detailing spray is concerned, two coats don't seem any shinier than 1 - the spray is more a lubricant than anyhting else. I've not used the Ice wax, though - I use Meguiar's Gold Class and I've been pretty impressed so far. Opinions on wax are very varied in here though, with some people preferring certain brands, but in the end, almost any good name-brand wax should give you good results if applied properly (and will be better than the way it came out of the dealership in any case).

And yes, a Dawn wash will strip off almost any wax you have currently on the car, synthetic or natural. Just use a squirt in a 5 gallon bucket and it should suffice. Follow up with a clay barring after the wash to remove any contaminents embedded in the clear coat, then top it off with the wax of your choice. Unless you wan to get REALLY tricky (layering multiple coats of synthetic wax topped off with natural carnuba, like they do on show cars), simply washing properly, claying and waxing every few months will keep the car looking really nice.
Thanks
I was talking about the wax (or synthetic whatever its called) not the detailing spray. It seems as though the spray is just a really diluted wax with some shampoo. From what I read the wax goes on so fast and easy that it makes the detailing spray not really necessary as you can use it when ever you wash. It seems as though it isn't the "absolute best" wax by any means, but the fact that you can use it on trim without white spots is sweet. I have a ton of respect for the OCD detailers out there
but I'm mostly concerned with something I can put on fast and easy.
but I'm mostly concerned with something I can put on fast and easy.
Seems we think alike checkM8...I'm definitely in awe of the OCD detailers, but I needed something easy to get started. The Ice definitely did the job for me, and I was even inspired to QD during the week to get the dust and bugs off.
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What's funny about this post is that if it takes you 8 hours to wax your MINI, you are doing something seriously wrong. It doesn't take longer than 20 minutes to wax my MINI. I can wash, clay, buff and wax my MINI in 4 hours, waxing is the least time consuming part of it.
Richard
Richard
Originally Posted by tshizzle
ice is great if you have a life and cant spend 8 hours waxing your car
Originally Posted by scatpack
Anyone else notice the large amount of static electricity the ICE causes? After wiping off the ICE, the charge is strong enough to make my arm hair stand on end!

As for 8 hours to clean the car, I agree with Octane. It only took me 3 hours to wash, clay bar and polish it with a random orbital polisher, and then another 30 min. or so, tops to apply and remove a coat of wax, and that's the longest I ever worked on it. Between-wash detailing with the Ice detail spray literally take me 10 minutes to do everything from the paint to the trim. Do you, perhaps, polish your car with a Q-tip?
Originally Posted by scatpack
Anyone else notice the large amount of static electricity the ICE causes? After wiping off the ICE, the charge is strong enough to make my arm hair stand on end!
I've noticed the static! I use small (12" x 12") blue microfiber towels to both remove the Zaino (Z2) when I zaino my MINI. I use white microfiber handheld applicators (round pad) to apply the zaino by hand. When removing the zaino after it has had time to dry/set, I noticed extreme amounts of static electricity, especially when rubbing/buffing any areas of painted plastic (and non-paitned, such as headlight and tailight lenses) such as the back and front bumper covers. We're talking enough static to make crackling noises with each pass of the cloth! It doesn't bother me, but it does attract dust quicker after a short drive...
I applied 4 (yes 4!) coats of Z2 on my brand new '06 MCSa (Space Blue/Silver) a week after delivery and then washed it two weeks later and the water literally beeded off every surface it was so slick. Actually, Zaino seems to last so long before diminishing in shine...months maybe???
Anyway, I'd say the part that takes longest is actually prepping/washing the MINI....and drying it, too. If those initial steps are done properly and painstakingly, the waxing process is fast and easy.
rock on,
-boognish
I applied 4 (yes 4!) coats of Z2 on my brand new '06 MCSa (Space Blue/Silver) a week after delivery and then washed it two weeks later and the water literally beeded off every surface it was so slick. Actually, Zaino seems to last so long before diminishing in shine...months maybe???
Anyway, I'd say the part that takes longest is actually prepping/washing the MINI....and drying it, too. If those initial steps are done properly and painstakingly, the waxing process is fast and easy.
rock on,
-boognish
I have a question about this product...I bought the Ice polish last week. It says "polish" on the bottle not "wax".
Are there different things or is this the Ice wax that everyone is talking about? It didn't really give me the depth I expected from a wax...
Are there different things or is this the Ice wax that everyone is talking about? It didn't really give me the depth I expected from a wax...
I think it says that because it is a synthetic and not a Carnauba type of wax. Carnauba is the old school type of wax. You could put on ICE and then put on Carnauba afterwards if you wanted. The cool thing about ICE in my mind is that you can put it over the trim without it turning white and nasty looking. That makes it alot faster to put on with no worries.
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Yep, bottle says Liquid Polish or ICE Synthetic Liquid Polish
But the back of the packaging says in the second sentence that ICE Synthetic Liquid Wax is..... Last paragraph also says that you can easily wax..
Every manufacturer defines wax/polish differently. Meguiar's defines waxes as something that protects while polishes are used to add gloss or might include paint cleaners that also remove swirls, as a combo polish/paint cleaner for removing swirls and adding gloss. They also have a pure polish which has no paint cleaning or swirl removing capability, and offers no protection. It's just for looks for a short period of time.
It seems that Turtle Wax is calling their Liquid Ice Polish a Wax as well as polish.
Richard
But the back of the packaging says in the second sentence that ICE Synthetic Liquid Wax is..... Last paragraph also says that you can easily wax..
Every manufacturer defines wax/polish differently. Meguiar's defines waxes as something that protects while polishes are used to add gloss or might include paint cleaners that also remove swirls, as a combo polish/paint cleaner for removing swirls and adding gloss. They also have a pure polish which has no paint cleaning or swirl removing capability, and offers no protection. It's just for looks for a short period of time.
It seems that Turtle Wax is calling their Liquid Ice Polish a Wax as well as polish.
Richard
Originally Posted by MLWagner79
I have a question about this product...I bought the Ice polish last week. It says "polish" on the bottle not "wax".
Are there different things or is this the Ice wax that everyone is talking about? It didn't really give me the depth I expected from a wax...
Are there different things or is this the Ice wax that everyone is talking about? It didn't really give me the depth I expected from a wax...
I tried the ICE and it looks great with very little effort. Have had it on the car for about a 6 weeks and I am very happy.
As I was in a pinch, I bought and used the detailer today. WOW. I know it won't last but my car really sparkles. (Hopefully, if the weather is good this week, I'll have a chance to wash the car thoroughly and use the regular ICE again.)
For those nubies who don't know anything about waxing and don't want to invest a lot of time and effort,this stuff is great.
As I was in a pinch, I bought and used the detailer today. WOW. I know it won't last but my car really sparkles. (Hopefully, if the weather is good this week, I'll have a chance to wash the car thoroughly and use the regular ICE again.)
For those nubies who don't know anything about waxing and don't want to invest a lot of time and effort,this stuff is great.
I just used ice myself for the first time. I was impressed with the results. It was really quick and easy to get use. I put on a couple of coats because washing and claybaring took so friggin long. It seemed like the claybar was a bit of overkill on my new car though the roof needed it some on the roof, mostly on the sunroof. I don't no how people keep the wax off the trim. I would have to guess q-tips. I think a traditional wax is probablly better protection, but being able to put it on quick and not have to worry about the trim has me sold. I wonder if there are any other products that work on the trim like ICE?
SIDE NOTE: I just put some Rain-X on the windows yesterday. I was sort of pissed about how hard it was to get off and looking streak free. Then I went out driving in a pretty solid rain and was amazed that I didn't have to use my windsheild wipers pretty much at all.
SIDE NOTE: I just put some Rain-X on the windows yesterday. I was sort of pissed about how hard it was to get off and looking streak free. Then I went out driving in a pretty solid rain and was amazed that I didn't have to use my windsheild wipers pretty much at all.
Originally Posted by checkM8
I just used ice myself for the first time. I was impressed with the results. It was really quick and easy to get use. I put on a couple of coats because washing and claybaring took so friggin long.
It's NOT.
I've not yet used Ice WAX but be advised anyone reading this thread - be sure that if you want to seal the paint after clay barring or polishing that you buy the actual Ice Wax and not just the spray detailer, otherwise your paint won't be truly sealed against the elements. Both are clear and look very similar so be surre to read the label before purchasing or applying.
As for how people keep the wax off the trim:

...they use painter's tape! It takes about 20-25 minutes to mask off the trim, but that's FAR LES time then you invest having to polish out wax marks in the trim, so I highly recommend it for when you either fully wax the car or use a olishing compound to buff out swirlies.
OK, carry on...
I used the ICE wax right after taking delivery of my MCS last week. I agree with most here that it's great. I waxed my entire car in about 20 minutes. I would imagine having to be concerned about keeping wax off the trim would slow the process down a lot. Since my car is garaged at home and work I think the ICE should give me all the protection I need. As easy as it is to apply I'll definitely wax more often than I would otherwise. From a previous NXT user I give it 5 thumbs up.
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Originally Posted by scatpack
Anyone else notice the large amount of static electricity the ICE causes? After wiping off the ICE, the charge is strong enough to make my arm hair stand on end!
Wow!
Well, I decided Saturday was a car washing day. While at the car wash, I decided to try to polish out the hazy scratches I created while using the terrible soap brush at another car wash. I used some NuFinish Scratch Doctor to do it; the results could be better (I guess?), but the haze is gone, you have to strain to see the scratches, and it shined the spot up really nice. I ended up using it on the entire car; I was bitten by the shine bug! So I decided to take the plunge, and get some Ice. All I can say is wow! My car looks like a million bucks! I can't believe the amount of attention it gets now, it really turns heads everywhere I go.
It also makes me really glad I have a black car; the side panels have turned to mirrors! Good stuff! I can't stop now, though, a claybar is definitely in my future.
It also makes me really glad I have a black car; the side panels have turned to mirrors! Good stuff! I can't stop now, though, a claybar is definitely in my future.




