Hi, it's Xtro. I use the QD every time I wash. I'll use the polish for the first time next week. Are you using the polish or QD after every wash ??

If you're using the polish, have you seen any type of smearing or dullness
because you put on so many coats ?? ( I'm guessing no ). I would tend to use the product often as well, so I'm very interested in details.

Thanks,

 

I'm getting ready to try ICE for the first time today. I've been using NXT, but the idea of not getting white cruddy wax on the trim is too tantalyzing not to try this stuff.

Hope it works as great as everyone and the infomercial claims!

 

I bought the last bottle of Ice from my local Autozone for around $15 a few weeks ago. Haven't tried it yet, but I plan to soon.

 

I have been curious about it myself. I used the NXT once more only this time with a machine like we did at your house last year and the results were much better than the hand applications that I have been doing. My biggest complaint was that the wax did not last as long as I thought it should and it changes the color of the plastic.

 

I polished out my car for the first time this weekend and the shine is AMAZING now... I plan to use the Ice until it runs out. It should be interesting to see how it looks on a really shiny car - I thought the paint fresh from the dealtership was nice, but now it looks incredible. Should be interesting to see if the Ice KEEPS it looking that way.

 

I still love the stuff! I have 2 or 3 coats on my car now. I did clay the car before hand and spent some time getting the wheel spats looking just right before putting the Ice down. I go about a month in between waxing and use the detail spray after every wash (maybe twice a week) It's sooooo nice not having to worry about the plastic trim!

 

"Turtle Wax ICE is the absolute worst "wax" to come on the market in a long time, and I highly suggest that people who care for their cars avoid this product like the plague!"

This is what I would say if I were a professional detailer afraid of losing business from my customers who might discover that they can get a fantastic professional looking shine almost effortlessly all by themselves.

I tried it today on both of our MINI's and they have never looked better! I think I am going to run out and do another layer if I can find a few more clean microfibers around the house!

Sadly, my camera was left at a party yesterday and I won't get it back until tomorrow. . . .

 

Rick
You're welcome to have some of my bottle! I only bought it for testing to see what all the fuss was about. NXT is a decent product, especially by machine, but I've been sold on M21 for the past year I've been using it--and now that it's available from stores--there's little reason to continue using NXT when M21 is here. You're welcome to try some M21 as well. =)

Pro Detailers Fear Ice?
I'm glad people like the shine of the product, but getting a good shine is only a part of the solution. A Pro Detailer will also get out the swirls, defects, and blemishes that no wax product can cover over or remove.

As an enduser, get all of them out before you apply ICE and now you have something that competes with a Pro Detailer.

This past weekend, one of our members rented an '05 or '06 CVT Cooper for a canyon run (he's got an MCS on order). It was black, and completely swirl city. It actually looked kinda beautiful seeing just how swirled out it was. I should have put some ICE on it to see if the finish would look any better, but I doubt it! (nothing against ICE, just an observation that applies to all waxes--Meguiar's included)

 

Richard, you are right that ICE is no substitute for the blemish removal that can be done by a pro, and my MINI could use that kind of care that I cannot (or will not) do myself.

I'm not all that picky nor am I a detailing enthusiast, but when I can buy a bottle of something and spend an afternoon making 2 MINI's look great then I am pretty happy.

 

Oh believe me, I understand that!

In my mind, ANYTHING that will encourage you to get out there and wax your car often is a good thing! I used to belong to the camp of people that maybe waxed their car once every couple of years--that was before my MINI.

It's always a good thing to see people interested in taking care of their MINIs!



Richard

 

Tried the ICE and initially really liked the results. Honestly, I wasn't all that impressed with the durability. I've gone back to my old wax. So far it seems more duarble.

I do have a bottle of M21 that I plan on trying next go-around, though. (mostly due to seeing Richard's finish)

 

How are you? How was your Canyon run yesterday? I wanted to go but I had a lot to do this weekend and the next to get ready for the Monterey Historics. I am having a bunch of graphics made for my car for the event, some of the graphics will have small C3 logos on them and I'm going to put C3 stickers on the windows. I'll send some pics when I get it finished. I can't wait to go to one of your events when things slow down a bit, It's been way to long since I have seen you.

OK, back on topic. The Ice is still nice but it does wash off after one wash with Meguires Gold, and it doesn't take away swirls. I am kinda confused why they call it a polish and not a wax. It seems to provide a wax like shine but I can't see how it polishes the paint, the stuff seems to be thinner then water and it seems to be more of a lubricant instead of an abrasive.
Talk to you soon,
Shawn

 

Hey Shawn,

It was an absolute blast. First chance to test out my new Flik wheels with the Falken Azenis--grip was amazing. I'm going to have to miss the Monterey event

Some photos here:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...03#post1075203

Can't wait to see what you've done to your MINI!!!

re: ICE "Polish"
Don't forget that not all polishes contain abrasives to remove swirls or defects. The term is kind of confusing, because every manufacturer uses the term differently. Meguiar's has a Pure Polish like #7 that contains no abrasives in it, but it's sole purpose is to bring out the gloss in dark finishes.
They also have paint cleaners or cleaner/polishes that clean the paint using diminishing abrasives while simultaneously adding gloss, but offer no protection!

As far as removing defects, if you aren't buffing them out, then you are either filling them in or using a chemical process to remove very light swirls. I don't believe ICE makes any of those claims.

 

I can definitely tell you that you can't get results like this with only Ice. I've used the Ice since the 3rd day I had the car, even before it needed a car wash, and I can tell you that the shine you get from a REAL polishing is noticibly better... I don't know of any detail spray can make the claim that it's "as good as a polish or a wax", but the Ice certainly can't (or, at least, it shouldn't, if it is).

Plus, I can also tell you from first-hand experience that the Ice is NOT a wax or a sealent. I discovered the hard way, when moisture was trapped beneath a magnetic gumball for 2 days and marred the surface of my paint that the Ice really does nothing that I can see to proptect the paint from contaminents. It took clay barring followed by a polishing compound and a random orbital to remove the marring and the light spiderwebbing, although a manual process with elbow grease added in for spice probably would have done the same (it just would have been more work).

That said, the Ice IS a good "detailing" type product, and seems to do a great job lubricating your microfiber when you wipe down the car between washings. I did notice, however, that even after only a few months of ownership, during which I was really, really careful of the car, I has already started to get some light swirl marks in the bonnet, so even the Ice ain't perfect. It's also great on plastic trim in that it does not leave white marks, but a real plastic dressing makes it look FAR better and (I suspect) gives the plastic better UV protection from fading. I did my trim with the Griot's after polishing and the plastic looks noticlbly richer and more lustrous than it does after Ice-ing.

Just my two cents. I really do like the Ice, and if you're more casual about wanting to keep a shine on the car without having to do the whole "bucket and hose" thing all the time then use it. If you're serious about a super shine, however, then you'll have to pony up the green for some automotive clay, a random orbital and good polish.

 

Your teachings are coming back to me know, how easy it is to forget. Charlie and I are going to go at our cars this weekend with the machines. I am going to use #80 and NXT wax. is the #7 like Dark Crystal Polish? Would it work well on Chili Red?

P.S.- Black wheels! Right on!

 

What day are you guys going up to Monterey? I'm going to be in Oxnard on Thurs, polishing out Scott's MINI for the event.

I'm out of town until Tuesday. Yes, #80 and Tech Wax will be a fine combination. Set PC to speed 5 except for when you apply Tech Wax, set that to speed 3 using the W9006 finishing pad.

Protect the plastic arch trims with painters tape cause both #80 and Tech Wax will make them white.

#7 Show Car Glaze

DC or Deep Crystal series are consumer, meaning they aren't numbered, unlike Mirror Glaze. DC comes in DC 1,2,3 (DC3 is Carnuba Wax).

I would skip the DC Polish as M80 will provide all the benefits of DC.

re: Black Wheels
hahaha yeah, I love them!

 

Charlie and I are going to leave early friday morning the 18th and we are going to detail the cars next Saturday. I bought a polishing and finishing pad, is it ok to use bonnets on them so they will last longer?

 

The MF bonnet is only used with the w7006 cutting pad. You can use it with the w8006 pad but it will be kind of mushy. The bonnet is only for removing the final coat of wax.

Use the w9006 for final wax application. The pads will last a long time if you take care of them.

Let me know if you need any help. My last detail of the week is on Friday.

Richard

 

Quick update. ICE has been put back on the shelf. Wasn't real happy with how it held up over time and it seemed to attract dust. So out came the dawn and the tried and true Zaino. Mini looks much better, dust isnt as big a problem on the boot.
I will continue to use ICE on the Titan, its 2 years old and is so much bigger that Zaino becomes a 2 day event.

So if you want something quick, ICE is ok so long as you arent expecting too much.
Just my 2 cents.

 

Thanks richard! I'll use the 8006 naked with #80 and the 9006 naked for waxing!

 

I'm going to detail my MINI for the first time this weekend, and I'm wondering if Ice is a good product to use for a newbie? I'm going to be detailing at my inlaws (because they have a hose) and I'm trying to get everything I need ahead of time. Having read a lot of the threads here, I intend to wash with dawn then wax with Ice (maybe a couple of coats). Is that a good start? What else should I be doing? I was thinking of claying before waxing if people think it's a good idea on a new car, and it would be my first time doing that ever. thoughts?

 

thanks for the advise!

 

Does ICE work as a top layer to other waxes such as NXT or would that be a pointless excercise? I'm worried that ICE doesn't protect the paint, but intrigued by the idea of a quick second or third coat using ICE.

 

I'm using it atop Gold Class and it looks fine. Gets bugs and other light contaminents right off paint AND black trim. I haven't used other detail sprays though, so I can't really compare, but we just got back from a 150-mile (or thereabouts) ramble through the Hocking Hills and the front was PLASTERED with bug guts, and everything wiped right off with the Ice. Thank GOD I waxed first, though.

If you're doing your very first detailing on a new car, wash it well then dry, then use the Ice all over. This is what I did 2-3 times a week on my car when I first got it (well, I bucket washed about once a week and Iced like 2-3 times as well as needed).

But... you still should consider clay barring before waxing, though, as any contaminents trapped beneath the way will litrally erode it from underneath. that said, on a new car, there shouldn't be TOO many things on the paint yet, but even on my '06 with only 2000 miles on it I pulled QUITE a bit of grunge off the bonnet with the clay. Glad I clayed before I waxed!

 

I wouldn't bother using a clay bar on an essentially brand new car. You'll almost certainly get excellent results with the ICE on that new paint. Make sure you have enough microfiber towels for buffing. I used a bunch of them to get our two MINI's looking nICE