Info and pix on my latest product is here.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...69#post2571469
Finally the solution to all your wax covered trim woes. Forget about taping to protect the trim before polishing. Black Wow works pretty well for cleaning trim and protecting it from polish/wax, but PreWow (not official name) works even better and easier and finished off with BW is the ultimate combo in looks and durability.
Richard
Before Cleaning

After Cleaning

After Black Wow

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...69#post2571469
Finally the solution to all your wax covered trim woes. Forget about taping to protect the trim before polishing. Black Wow works pretty well for cleaning trim and protecting it from polish/wax, but PreWow (not official name) works even better and easier and finished off with BW is the ultimate combo in looks and durability.
Richard
Before Cleaning
After Cleaning
After Black Wow
Some more pix...yes I know this car is awful, but it was a beater in our lot and belonged to an audio guy that was doing some contract work.


As you can see here, the trim is pretty beat up. It's faded due to neglect and using the PreWow doesn't do a lot of good for the color, although it does help make it a bit more uniform.

Black Wow is being applied to the now clean surface. The plastic swallowed up the BW easily, so two applications were needed.


Trim is done and looks as best as it can be compared to the surrounding trim.

While it's obvious in this instance is that restoring the trim doesn't help the overall condition of the car, but the trim improvement from neglected to restored is night and day.
The point of this thread was to show that PreWow can be used to clean any surface to prep for BW regardless of whether it has wax/polish residue.
As you can see here, the trim is pretty beat up. It's faded due to neglect and using the PreWow doesn't do a lot of good for the color, although it does help make it a bit more uniform.
Black Wow is being applied to the now clean surface. The plastic swallowed up the BW easily, so two applications were needed.
Trim is done and looks as best as it can be compared to the surrounding trim.
While it's obvious in this instance is that restoring the trim doesn't help the overall condition of the car, but the trim improvement from neglected to restored is night and day.
The point of this thread was to show that PreWow can be used to clean any surface to prep for BW regardless of whether it has wax/polish residue.
The trim above the door of this Cayman S was grey and covered in polish from the previous detailer.



Big difference with PW cleaning it up. No BW applied yet, just cleaned.

Big difference with PW cleaning it up. No BW applied yet, just cleaned.
6th Gear
I have to say that you've outdone yourself again OG. One of the issues for me with BW is that it doesn't always get all of the white residue out- especially on the roof trim(I think that it's because the trim is rubber ;x). Generally I will wipe it as best as I can prior to using BW and generally need multiple applications to really get rid of the residue. What will PreWow be rated to be used on?
6th Gear
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Me too. Black Wow didn't do a great job cleaning wax off my wheel arches. I had to go back to peanut butter. But BW did a nice job as a dressing so I am willing to try one more time to beat PB.Originally Posted by IzzyG
... One of the issues for me with BW is that it doesn't always get all of the white residue out-...
So, how do we get it?
Rich
OVERDRIVE
OG, I've been dying to for you go market this stuff to remove some wax/polish residue off my black trim. I'm tired of going over it every couple months with various products that produce varying degrees of temporary fix.
So... you've tested this on wax/polish and followed up two months, or more, later and know it actually removes that residue and isn't just covering it up ?
Silly question, maybe. Knowing you the way I do, I'm 97 percent sure this will completely remove the residue. Nice to be 100 percent sure though.
So... you've tested this on wax/polish and followed up two months, or more, later and know it actually removes that residue and isn't just covering it up ?
Silly question, maybe. Knowing you the way I do, I'm 97 percent sure this will completely remove the residue. Nice to be 100 percent sure though.
That looks fantastic! I would love to try it sometime on my wheel arches and front grille. Also, I never heard of using PB to get the wax off! Would peanut oil do the same thing?
6th Gear
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So far it is the only thing that I know that works. I have not used oil and have heard that other felt that smooth Skippy works best. It does for me.Originally Posted by Locust
T... I never heard of using PB to get the wax off! Would peanut oil do the same thing?
What I wonder is what the first person to try it was thinking.
Rich
OVERDRIVE
Peanut Butter is one of those products I've tried and found it provides only temporary fix to the polish/wax problem. It does a nice job of covering up the white residue but a few weeks later, it comes right back. 

I've been quiet about it for awhile because of testing/development reasons. Yes it absolutely removes polish and wax residue instead of coating it. Originally I was going along the lines of testing a more concentrated version of the cleaners in BW but the effectiveness was limited. I will photograph my MINI trim test piece and show what it looks like after 2+ month which has both areas of BW, and areas of PW only against the raw neglected plastic.
We began developing a formula consisting of surfactants that would effectively remove wax residue without requiring an abrasive applicator.
Unlike Peanut Butter, it removes the residue and preps it for Black Wow.
The best thing about PW is that you don't need to rub the plastic/rubber. The microfiber sponge applicator shown in the pix will be included in one of the bundled versions of PW.
I'm going to be selling PW in both standalone and bundled versions of BW.
Just to clarify--BW is great for restoring plastic and preventing wax/polish from sticky to pretreated parts. But it takes effort on heavily abused/neglected parts. PW was created as a super easy to use and safe method for cleaning trim and complements BW before application. No need for rubbing alcohol or other cleaners or worrying about whether you are drying out the trim or whether you've cleaned the trim enough for best results.
Richard
We began developing a formula consisting of surfactants that would effectively remove wax residue without requiring an abrasive applicator.
Unlike Peanut Butter, it removes the residue and preps it for Black Wow.
The best thing about PW is that you don't need to rub the plastic/rubber. The microfiber sponge applicator shown in the pix will be included in one of the bundled versions of PW.
I'm going to be selling PW in both standalone and bundled versions of BW.
Just to clarify--BW is great for restoring plastic and preventing wax/polish from sticky to pretreated parts. But it takes effort on heavily abused/neglected parts. PW was created as a super easy to use and safe method for cleaning trim and complements BW before application. No need for rubbing alcohol or other cleaners or worrying about whether you are drying out the trim or whether you've cleaned the trim enough for best results.
Richard
OVERDRIVE
Just like just what we MINIacs need, OG.
Just give us the word when it'll be commercially available and you'll have plenty of orders, I'm sure.
Just give us the word when it'll be commercially available and you'll have plenty of orders, I'm sure.
4th Gear
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I believe he is having problems with his host once again. I don't get any of the images hosted on his site.Originally Posted by kenchan
wats with the red x boxes, OG?


Yeah I am having a bad week. Not only has my host pulled my site down so they can fix things and do it without warning me, but my MINI once again broke down again with an axle issue...
Anyways, I'm moving my website to a new host and for now, people should email me at nam@noSwirls.com
Eventually SCD will be back up and running, but for now, I'm setting up camp with a new ISP.
Richard
Anyways, I'm moving my website to a new host and for now, people should email me at nam@noSwirls.com
Eventually SCD will be back up and running, but for now, I'm setting up camp with a new ISP.
Richard
Ok, pictures have been moved to a new server, so they should be visible. The Cayman S photos are being uploaded now, and will work in about 15 minutes.
Richard
Richard
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Looks good but a better test would be that mirror if it can restore that to black (assuming it dosent fall off when you touch it) it can restore anything.Originally Posted by OctaneGuy
Some more pix...yes I know this car is awful, but it was a beater in our lot and belonged to an audio guy that was doing some contract work.Now what do you suggest for the rear fender CUT or FINISH.
Lets us know when its ready Im willing to try it.
BTW what do you suggest for removing scratches on the black plastic trim on the cubbie including the bumber I managed to scratch mine with sand on the bottom of my shoe (Dont ask bad habbit owning trucks).
Actually that mirror was primered, so PW or BW would have no affect.
As for polishing questions, that's beyond the scope of this thread, feel free to make a new thread on those.
The intent of this thread was to let people know of a new product I'm working on, and PW is a cleaning product that works as a companion to BW.
Richard
As for polishing questions, that's beyond the scope of this thread, feel free to make a new thread on those.
The intent of this thread was to let people know of a new product I'm working on, and PW is a cleaning product that works as a companion to BW.
Richard
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Now what do you suggest for the rear fender CUT or FINISH.
Lets us know when its ready Im willing to try it.
BTW what do you suggest for removing scratches on the black plastic trim on the cubbie including the bumber I managed to scratch mine with sand on the bottom of my shoe (Dont ask bad habbit owning trucks).
Originally Posted by Mr Ray
Looks good but a better test would be that mirror if it can restore that to black (assuming it dosent fall off when you touch it) it can restore anything.Now what do you suggest for the rear fender CUT or FINISH.
Lets us know when its ready Im willing to try it.
BTW what do you suggest for removing scratches on the black plastic trim on the cubbie including the bumber I managed to scratch mine with sand on the bottom of my shoe (Dont ask bad habbit owning trucks).


