Cooper (non S) Modifications specific to the MINI Cooper (R50).

how to go from drive by wire throttle to throttle body cable

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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 11:51 PM
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how to go from drive by wire throttle to throttle body cable

might sound crazy,but im thinking to put a b series honda engine into my mini,but i realize something,our car is drive by wire,so what would you need to do to make the car runnable?
 
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 03:10 AM
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You would need to fab a cable and pedal. I would suspect that would be one of the least difficult of the alterations you would need to make.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 05:13 AM
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haha ya i agree with ran o matic, thats got to be one of lesser problems youll come across, can i ask y?
 
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 05:14 AM
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wait i think u hav a justacooper, maybe thats y?
 
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 09:37 AM
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your biggest concern is the throttle cable?
 
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 09:39 AM
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i don't know much about cars,my mini is dying,the transmission is almost done and so is the engine,it only have 49000km,with the money for the transmission and fixing the engine,im thinking i should save up abit more and put another engine into the mini that is more reliable and can handle more power n torque
 
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 09:43 AM
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Ya man, if it is feesible you can get some honda motors that can put out some power.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 10:17 AM
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Or buy a Cooper S motor and tranny and just bolt it in, for the most part.....
 
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 07:05 PM
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Seeing as you admit you don't know much about cars, I will tell you, an engine swap from a different manufacturer will be very expensive if you can not do the work and fabrication yourself. Very likely more than the cost of the vehicle. Think: motor mounts, physically fitting the engine, transmission, and mounting the driveshafts, adapting them to the MINI hubs, shifter linkages, possible changes to the cooling system, integrating the wiring harness/ECU and trying to get the MINI gauges to work, integrating cruise control, etc...

I would bet the Cooper S would have to be the easiest/cheapest swap, relatively speaking.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 08:55 PM
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I had a quick look at dimensional differences, and mounts.. that looks like a LOT of work to swap a b series hondo motor in. Would be a smarter idea to look for an S motor....
 
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 09:17 PM
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If you're dead set on going Honda powered, why not just go K series? you can get one as cheap as a B18C if not cheaper and it has already been done before by someone in Europe I believe makng about 400whp so there might be some helpful knowledge out there already. IMHO I agree with everybody else on just going with an S motor/trans and calling it a day. Just my .02
 
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 11:41 PM
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Almost all the B series top out at 128tq stock at the most? So if your not looking for more power what are you looking for? That Euro swap was an epic fail! Seriously drop an S motor in your R50.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 12:16 AM
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I would look for another MC engine one popped up today around here on Craigslist $1600 for a MCS engine with claimed 60k seems like a good price no trans but clutch is there.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 01:57 AM
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Gonna have to swap out the bonnet too.

S Engine will not fit under the bonnet of a Cooper.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 10:53 AM
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Might be most economical to get a wrecked "S" (with out any front end damage) and then do the swap, and part out the rest. Or sell your R50 and get an "S" model.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 10:57 AM
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Piffle!

Jump in the deep end and go for it! But buy a beater car to drive around for the 1 year plus it will take to do the work. And you'll learn welding and wiring and everything there is to know about powertrains!

Matt

ps, it's a big job, but I wouldn't reccomend it as a starter project for someone who is new to working on cars.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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And I bet after the swap....and working to get the gearing right on the tranny..you end up with much less relilability than you had, and a car that, while will draw a crowed at a MINI club meet, will likely be such a one off job, that sellng it is impossible, and getting someone to work on the car other than the person who built it would be very hard.
But if you have $15,000+ to spare, do it...if you do it your self...might be cheaper...not too much....it would involve replacing almost every system in the car....like Matt said....the guages....computer...and tons of improvision work....and lots of fabercation, welding.....you could be better off building a kit car!!! It would be faster, and much eassier!!
 
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