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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 10:42 AM
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Polyurethane Bushings?

Mini Countryman Family:

I'm wondering about polyurethane bushing upgrades for the CM and whether it is worth it. I've looked at the Powerflex lineup and it is vast--far more items than I imagined. There are multiple poly bushings for suspension, front and rear sway bars, engine mounts, etc.

I run on KWv2 coil overs and an NM rear sway bar. My suspension is much tighter than stock. This also means I can feel almost everything coming back from the road, engine and suspension.

Have any of you upgraded to poly bushings on your CM, and if so, which upgrades do you recommend to start? I suppose I could do everything at once if I'm going to have to get in there but that would require changes at multiple locations. Thanks in advance, B
 
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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 11:25 AM
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Well it sounds like it’s pretty tight already, and if you are dealing with NVH now, the poly bushings may make it more pronounced. I would definitely do the torque arm insert though, for the lower motor mount.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 11:51 AM
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Thanks for the advice. I'll check that out.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 12:10 PM
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Oh I know who this is now! Hey buddy!
Mario has the NM torque arm insert too, that’s where mine came from.
I forgot is Papito All4 or fwd? The insert is a tougher install on the All4 than on fwd. I still haven’t put it in yet! Lol.
I took it out and was attempting to do it, but it’s a 2 man job on mine. I need my neighbor to give me a hand. I just don’t feel good about putting a jack on the oil pan, even with a block of wood. But may end up doing that anyway, since the neighbor is always busy and works graveyard shift. Maybe we should do them together
 
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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 06:47 PM
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We exclusively use the Powerflex bushings for all our control arm bushing replacements in our shop and they always work great. So I wouldn't be afraid of using them.
Powerflex has a great kit for all of it.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/powerf...0-r61-2wd.html

But if you don't want to do everything I'd at least do the front control arm bushings.

The engine bushings can add some vibration, but really reduce engine rock that helps get the power down.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2019 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MrGrumpy
Oh I know who this is now! Hey buddy!
Mario has the NM torque arm insert too, that’s where mine came from.
I forgot is Papito All4 or fwd? The insert is a tougher install on the All4 than on fwd. I still haven’t put it in yet! Lol.
I took it out and was attempting to do it, but it’s a 2 man job on mine. I need my neighbor to give me a hand. I just don’t feel good about putting a jack on the oil pan, even with a block of wood. But may end up doing that anyway, since the neighbor is always busy and works graveyard shift. Maybe we should do them together
Papito is an All4 too. Like the idea of getting together to get them both done together. I’ll check NM. Is it only one insert I need?
 
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Old Feb 1, 2019 | 12:59 PM
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Yeah, or have Mario send you one. The 2wd and All4 are a bit different I think, make sure you get the right one. I’m totally game for getting together and knocking them out!
 
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Old Feb 2, 2019 | 06:01 PM
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Sorry I posted for the 2wd, the ALL4 is different.

For just the lower engine mount here is the mount insert like the NM, we offer both the but the Powerflex is by far a better bargain at about half the price
https://www.waymotorworks.com/powerf...r60-all-4.html

But for the All4 our favorite Powerflex insert is to do the diff insert just to reduce the rock in it. Again cheap, and easy install.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/powerf...r60-all-4.html
 
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Old Feb 2, 2019 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by WayMotorWorks
Sorry I posted for the 2wd, the ALL4 is different.

For just the lower engine mount here is the mount insert like the NM, we offer both the but the Powerflex is by far a better bargain at about half the price
https://www.waymotorworks.com/powerf...r60-all-4.html

But for the All4 our favorite Powerflex insert is to do the diff insert just to reduce the rock in it. Again cheap, and easy install.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/powerf...r60-all-4.html
OHHHHH! I need one of those diff inserts! Thanks Way! I’ll be ordering one soon for sure!
 
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Old Feb 6, 2019 | 12:52 PM
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i have the engine inserts and the rear diff inserts. with the 6 spd, it was very noticable when shifting on how smooth everything was after the fact. I do get some NVH in 4th between 1900-2000 RPM, thats the only spot. easy install and totally worth it. i want the control arm bushings next but my stock ones are still very good.... for now
 
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