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R60 '13 R60 Engine Knocking & Vibrating After Sparkplug Change

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Old Jun 24, 2018 | 09:35 PM
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'13 R60 Engine Knocking & Vibrating After Sparkplug Change

Hey all! I am relatively new to this forum, and I am hoping that you can help me. I have a '13 Countryman that I just changed the spark plugs on. When I did that, the car is now idling extremely rough (think--the engine is shaking) and knocking. The engine light comes on immediately upon startup. I replaced the spark plugs with the same NGK plugs (Click Here For Detailed Link). I also installed some new ignition coils thinking that may solve the problem, and it didn't.

I am in dire need of some help. Does anyone have any ideas I can try before I take it to a mechanic. Also, please have mercy on me--although I can figure out how to do most things repair related, I don't have a big background with cars. Thank you greatly for any assistance you can provide.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 06:07 AM
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Are you sure that you have the plugs and the coils seated correctly ??
 
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 06:12 AM
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Thanks for responding back. I am relatively sure that they are seated correctly. The first plug gave a little more resistance than the others going in. Is there a best practice to make sure that they are seated properly?
 
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 06:20 AM
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if the car is misfiring, check which one/ones are not firing. did you make sure all plugs are pressed in and locked properly>? can you also verify you have the right gap on the plugs>?
 
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 06:23 AM
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MiniToBe--How do I specifically check to see which ones aren't firing? Do I need a code reader/check for that? Sorry for the newbie questios. Again, I really appreciate the assistance.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 06:31 AM
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it is better if you have code reader (mini/bmw specific). if you dont have the reader you have use this method...while the car is running, unplug each coil one at a time and notice which one makes the engine shake more or even stall.

once you identify the faulty ones the you can swap coils to see if that fault moves with the coil or not. you can also swap spark plugs (I know you replaced them but process of elimination) and see if the fault follows.

be gentle installing and removing spark plugs. they shouldnt give you too much resistance. make sure the threads are clean and free of dirt.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 06:50 AM
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From one newbie to another. Spark plugs i buy OEM. This is a tad bit more money but it is what a mini tech would use on your car.
Not to spark a spark plug debate. Many thoughts on the topic.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 07:56 AM
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Should be NGK 95770 plugs
 
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 08:10 AM
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ke3ee--Thanks for the response. Is there a reason why the ones that I got (see the link in the original post) shouldn't work correctly? I'm not challenging you--I genuinely don't know. The ones that I got are listed as OEM parts as well. If there is a difference, I will certainly go pick up a set.

Thanks!
 
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 08:26 AM
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I would suggest you do a search on this topic on the forum. Everything I find and read says NGK 95770's on stock engines and NGK 1422's on slightly modified in many threads on this forum. I have 2 CM's both slightly modified with tunes and I use NGLK 1422's in both.

I don't mean to be mean, rude or condisending .. but it truly sounds like your not experienced in auto work and these cars are not very forgiving. check the items below.

a: a bad plug

b: plugs are not gapped properly , this should have been checked before installation


c: you crossthreaded a plug when installing, there should be no resistance when threading the new plug in and if there was you should have stopped and checked it.


d: one of the coil packs isnt seated on the plug all the way. The coil packs should be all the way down touching the valve cover. Also check if the connector is all the way into the coil and locked.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 08:50 AM
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ke3ee--You aren't being rude/condescending. I will freely admit that I am not experienced in auto work, although typically I am pretty handy and can figure most things out. I should/will do more research into things. I usually do a ton of reading before asking questions. Right now, I have two jobs that have been extremely busy, and research time has been difficult to come by. I appreciate your patience and knowledge.

a: I will switch it out to see if this makes a difference
b: I checked, and they seemed gapped properly
c: I hope it isn't this. There was some mild resistance installing the first plug
d: I have reseated the coil packs a few times. Never hurts to check again.
 

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Old Jun 29, 2018 | 02:25 PM
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I had misfire and engine codes when I did my plugs. I had to reseat the coils to the plugs about three times before they started working right. It's a very finicky thing to get the coils to seat right on the plugs.
 
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Old Jul 3, 2018 | 10:28 AM
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I saw that you said you replaced the coils as well? If so, what did you use? I ask because I had a similar issue on ‘12. Replaced the plugs and coils, but did not buy OEM coils, and was misfiring badly after. It was the coils, re-purchased Delphi OEM coils and it cleared right up. You don’t have to buy the ones that say MINI on them, you can get the same part from the manufacturer. Match up the part #’s. MINI uses either Delphi or Bosch depending on when it was built.
 
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