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4th Gear
Joined: Jul 2012
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I'd either wait and try to sell it yourself, or suck it up and do the trade. Like it or not, that's about all you can expect from a dealer trade. I assume since your CM just arrived at the dealership, that you ordered it?
When I ordered mine, I had done the research as well for my 2007 Fully loaded A3, in perfect condition, with low miles. KBB for trade was $16k, private sale was $19.5. Dealer evaluated my car then, just so I wouldn't have any surprises when mine came in. They offered $13.5. I put it up for sale, and ended up getting $17 for it, and the new owner picked it up one week before my CM came in, so timing worked out great.
When I ordered mine, I had done the research as well for my 2007 Fully loaded A3, in perfect condition, with low miles. KBB for trade was $16k, private sale was $19.5. Dealer evaluated my car then, just so I wouldn't have any surprises when mine came in. They offered $13.5. I put it up for sale, and ended up getting $17 for it, and the new owner picked it up one week before my CM came in, so timing worked out great.
2nd Gear
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 121
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Yeah I put 1K down on it, custom order, but I am willing to walk away. I did the math upfront and worst case would have to put 2-3K towards the CM, but not the $7-8K that is now before me.
Strange thing occurred to me today. That is the $26K value that popped on the MA's computer screen only looked at year, make, mileage, and if I have navigation, leather, and a sunroof. No other options were asked, and since the car has almost every option this seems very favored to the dealer not the seller.
I now have the trade in for sale online and going to a few other dealers soon for comparison.
Strange thing occurred to me today. That is the $26K value that popped on the MA's computer screen only looked at year, make, mileage, and if I have navigation, leather, and a sunroof. No other options were asked, and since the car has almost every option this seems very favored to the dealer not the seller.
I now have the trade in for sale online and going to a few other dealers soon for comparison.
Hey. So looking for a little advice please-
My CMS All4 arrived at the dealer the other day
. I went to review the paperwork and for them to evaluate my trade (an excellent condition, loaded Lexus that KBB, NADA, and Edmunds value between $30-31K for trade-in). After waiting, looking at my car, sitting in my car, the MA came back with a $26K offer. I was shocked to say the least. What should I do?
I was expecting to pay almost nothing out of pocket, and will walk away if I have to. They mentioned since I got a $2K off MSRP that they couldn't budge on the trade allowance so they could make up some money. That sounds off-topic and not my problem (although it would seem they are trying to make it my problem). Any one else have to deal with a custom order, deposit, and then get "screwed" on the trade 8 weeks later?
My CMS All4 arrived at the dealer the other day
. I went to review the paperwork and for them to evaluate my trade (an excellent condition, loaded Lexus that KBB, NADA, and Edmunds value between $30-31K for trade-in). After waiting, looking at my car, sitting in my car, the MA came back with a $26K offer. I was shocked to say the least. What should I do?I was expecting to pay almost nothing out of pocket, and will walk away if I have to. They mentioned since I got a $2K off MSRP that they couldn't budge on the trade allowance so they could make up some money. That sounds off-topic and not my problem (although it would seem they are trying to make it my problem). Any one else have to deal with a custom order, deposit, and then get "screwed" on the trade 8 weeks later?
my dealer make me signe a paper showing how much is the car that i want, how much they gonna sell it to me, what the APR % rate, how many months of the loan and all the stuff.. it stated also how much my trade in worth...
but the most importanly i did record the whole deal in my cell phone.... so when my car arrive and dealer give me problem i will show it to them... lol..
4th Gear
Joined: Jul 2012
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Yeah I put 1K down on it, custom order, but I am willing to walk away. I did the math upfront and worst case would have to put 2-3K towards the CM, but not the $7-8K that is now before me.
Strange thing occurred to me today. That is the $26K value that popped on the MA's computer screen only looked at year, make, mileage, and if I have navigation, leather, and a sunroof. No other options were asked, and since the car has almost every option this seems very favored to the dealer not the seller.
I now have the trade in for sale online and going to a few other dealers soon for comparison.
Strange thing occurred to me today. That is the $26K value that popped on the MA's computer screen only looked at year, make, mileage, and if I have navigation, leather, and a sunroof. No other options were asked, and since the car has almost every option this seems very favored to the dealer not the seller.
I now have the trade in for sale online and going to a few other dealers soon for comparison.
You'll be happier selling your car by owner and getting more money to put down. Doing it that way for me actually is allowing me to not finance the car at all. Did you find out how long they will "hold" the car for you while you try to sell?
I ordered my ALL4s and talked trade in with my MA. They offered me $13k on my trade in and the offer was only valid for 30 days. I thought I could get better selling privately, and I sold my trade in to Texas Auto Direct the day before my CM came in for $15,500. Although I lost the sales tax credit, I still made out better than selling to the Mini franchise. Carmax is also another good avenue - at least you can get a good idea how the numbers stack up. On my trade in they only offered $14,500.
2nd Gear
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 83
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From: Portland Oregon
Just found out the other day my Countryman is on the NYK-line Asteria Leader. Left Bremerhaven on the 3rd and should be in LA on the 29th. My MA told me about a week to 2 weeks to get it up to Portland. Seems like a long time to put it on a truck and drive it up. Should have it by the 15th of September at the latest. Only 1 more month of waiting!
1st Gear
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 49
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From: Portland, OR
My R60 arrived in Portland today, faster than expected turnaround after it hit Port Hueneme on August 8th, I won't get back from vacation until Friday so i've got something to look forward to back home!
2nd Gear
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 83
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From: Portland Oregon
That's great to hear! I just got an e-mail from my MA confirming my Countryman should be in LA on the 28th or 29th. He also said it looks like shes sitting in an outboard compartment which should be unloaded first so only about 7 to 10 days to get it up to Portland. He thinks September 5th she should be ready for pickup!
2nd Gear
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 57
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From: Texas
That's great to hear! I just got an e-mail from my MA confirming my Countryman should be in LA on the 28th or 29th. He also said it looks like shes sitting in an outboard compartment which should be unloaded first so only about 7 to 10 days to get it up to Portland. He thinks September 5th she should be ready for pickup!
2nd Gear
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 57
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From: Texas
Wife called the Portland MINI Dealer, her MA was out, so she talked to the Sales Manager. He told her that her CM arrived in CA yesterday. He said it was not at the VDC yet but expected it there by Friday. Stated it would be five (5) days by truck to Portland. So, our planned pickup on September 5 looks good. She can hardly wait. 
2nd Gear
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 108
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From: Phoenix, AZ
Finally an update! It's in the paint shop!
ORDERED 07/24/2012
PRODUCTION NUMBER 07/24/2012
SCHEDULED FOR PRODUCTION 7/26/12
VIN 8/1/12
PRODUCTION STARTED 8/1/12
ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE 8/23/12
BODY SHOP ????
PAINT SHOP 8/22/12
FINAL ASSEMBLY ????
BORN ????
AWAITING TRANSPORT ????
AT PORT ????
SET SAIL ????
AT ARRIVAL PORT ????
AT VDC ????
ON TRUCK ????
AT DEALER ????
PICKED UP ????
ORDERED 07/24/2012
PRODUCTION NUMBER 07/24/2012
SCHEDULED FOR PRODUCTION 7/26/12
VIN 8/1/12
PRODUCTION STARTED 8/1/12
ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE 8/23/12
BODY SHOP ????
PAINT SHOP 8/22/12
FINAL ASSEMBLY ????
BORN ????
AWAITING TRANSPORT ????
AT PORT ????
SET SAIL ????
AT ARRIVAL PORT ????
AT VDC ????
ON TRUCK ????
AT DEALER ????
PICKED UP ????
2nd Gear
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
Update! Its Alive!
ORDERED 07/30/2012
PRODUCTION NUMBER 07/30/2012
SCHEDULED FOR PRODUCTION 7/31/12
VIN 8/1/12
PRODUCTION STARTED 8/1/12
ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE 8/22/12
BODY SHOP ????
PAINT SHOP 8/21/12
FINAL ASSEMBLY 8/22/12
BORN 8/22/12
AWAITING TRANSPORT 8/23/12
AT PORT ????
SET SAIL ????
AT ARRIVAL PORT ????
AT VDC ????
ON TRUCK ????
AT DEALER ????
PICKED UP ????
ORDERED 07/30/2012
PRODUCTION NUMBER 07/30/2012
SCHEDULED FOR PRODUCTION 7/31/12
VIN 8/1/12
PRODUCTION STARTED 8/1/12
ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE 8/22/12
BODY SHOP ????
PAINT SHOP 8/21/12
FINAL ASSEMBLY 8/22/12
BORN 8/22/12
AWAITING TRANSPORT 8/23/12
AT PORT ????
SET SAIL ????
AT ARRIVAL PORT ????
AT VDC ????
ON TRUCK ????
AT DEALER ????
PICKED UP ????
2nd Gear
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
From: Phoenix, AZ
Update! Its Alive!
ORDERED 07/30/2012
PRODUCTION NUMBER 07/30/2012
SCHEDULED FOR PRODUCTION 7/31/12
VIN 8/1/12
PRODUCTION STARTED 8/1/12
ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE 8/22/12
BODY SHOP ????
PAINT SHOP 8/21/12
FINAL ASSEMBLY 8/22/12
BORN 8/22/12
AWAITING TRANSPORT 8/23/12
AT PORT ????
SET SAIL ????
AT ARRIVAL PORT ????
AT VDC ????
ON TRUCK ????
AT DEALER ????
PICKED UP ????
ORDERED 07/30/2012
PRODUCTION NUMBER 07/30/2012
SCHEDULED FOR PRODUCTION 7/31/12
VIN 8/1/12
PRODUCTION STARTED 8/1/12
ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE 8/22/12
BODY SHOP ????
PAINT SHOP 8/21/12
FINAL ASSEMBLY 8/22/12
BORN 8/22/12
AWAITING TRANSPORT 8/23/12
AT PORT ????
SET SAIL ????
AT ARRIVAL PORT ????
AT VDC ????
ON TRUCK ????
AT DEALER ????
PICKED UP ????
2nd Gear
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
From: Phoenix, AZ
1st Gear
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 15
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My CM was on the same boat. I asked my MA and he said I will likely be able to take delivery the end of next week. Just call your MA and ask although they might know more on Monday. Unfortunately the VDC isn't open on weekends but I think it takes at most 3 days there usually.
2nd Gear
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 51
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Awesome! your car looks like the negative image of mine: White with black mirrors, roof and bonnet stripes!
2nd Gear
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
From: Phoenix, AZ
That's funny they are mirror images!! So mine is now awaiting transport to the port!! I think our Minis are going to be travel mates!
2nd Gear
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 108
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From: Phoenix, AZ
Got a lovely e-mail from my MA today! My Mini is awaiting transport to the port!
ORDERED 07/24/2012
PRODUCTION NUMBER 07/24/2012
SCHEDULED FOR PRODUCTION 7/26/12
VIN 8/1/12
PRODUCTION STARTED 8/1/12
ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE 8/23/12
BODY SHOP ????
PAINT SHOP 8/22/12
FINAL ASSEMBLY 8/23/12
BORN 8/23/12
AWAITING TRANSPORT 8/24/12
AT PORT ????
SET SAIL ????
AT ARRIVAL PORT ????
AT VDC ????
ON TRUCK ????
AT DEALER ????
PICKED UP ????
ORDERED 07/24/2012
PRODUCTION NUMBER 07/24/2012
SCHEDULED FOR PRODUCTION 7/26/12
VIN 8/1/12
PRODUCTION STARTED 8/1/12
ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE 8/23/12
BODY SHOP ????
PAINT SHOP 8/22/12
FINAL ASSEMBLY 8/23/12
BORN 8/23/12
AWAITING TRANSPORT 8/24/12
AT PORT ????
SET SAIL ????
AT ARRIVAL PORT ????
AT VDC ????
ON TRUCK ????
AT DEALER ????
PICKED UP ????
3rd Gear
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 203
Likes: 0
From: New York, NY
My status on Ask MINI changed to "Your vehicle is in transit. Please contact your dealer for additional tracking information." Any idea what the difference between that and the prior recording "Your vehicle is released to a carrier, and is awaiting transportation to the port of exit."
I've tried searching for my VIN on the WW site and haven't had anything come up. I figure that gives me an 'in' to call my MA without officially seeming crazy, but I figured it was worth checking in here as well. Any idea where in the process that message means?
Thanks!
-Chris.
I've tried searching for my VIN on the WW site and haven't had anything come up. I figure that gives me an 'in' to call my MA without officially seeming crazy, but I figured it was worth checking in here as well. Any idea where in the process that message means?
Thanks!
-Chris.