Go Back  North American Motoring > 3rd Generation MINIs > Wheels/Tires/Brakes
Arggghhh...the pothole pirates got me! >

Arggghhh...the pothole pirates got me!

Arggghhh...the pothole pirates got me!

  #1  
Old 03-19-2018, 06:01 PM
WhatV8's Avatar
WhatV8
WhatV8 is offline
3rd Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Streamwood, IL
Posts: 293
Received 37 Likes on 32 Posts
Arggghhh...the pothole pirates got me!

Well, I have now had my 2nd pothole clip in 33 years of driving! A couple of weeks ago I was caught off guard while changing lanes and did by best to miss the 12" wide pothole and was able to just 'clip' it with a pretty good "bang" on the passenger front. Watched for my TPMS to light off or feel a funny wobble and didn't get either...whew! When I got home I did a quick looksee in the dark and didn't spot anything...whew #2. Last Wednesday one of my co-workers and I were talking in the parking lot and he starts to stare at my passenger front...uh, oh. What I found is pictured below... Ok, how is that damn thing holding air and how did I miss it the week before! I am guessing the low light combined with it facing downward when I parked and am sticking with that Looks like the inner sidewall of the RF tire design is holding up and keeping air in, so I am avoiding tossing my spare tire on.

So, looking into getting a replacement pair of the OEM Pirelli RF's I was greeted with the wonderful price of $230/tire...are you KIDDING me! OEM tires are usually a bit more than replacements, but I am not use to double aftermarket equivalents. I have 15K on my vehicle and am showing just over 1/2 depth left. I really don't want a new pair to go with a 1/2 worn pair, especially since I have an HPDE scheduled for my MINI in June. I was hoping to put these all season Pirelli's through a good torture test at the track day and change them out at the start of the next winter season. I have decided to jump over to another all season tire, but non run-flat and a whole set of (4) to keep things even all around. Should get them mounted up tomorrow, they came in to my local Discount Tire shop today.

With that said, I will have (3) reasonable good Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Run Flat tires in the 225/45VR17 variety available to anyone local who may want them as a backup. As noted above, they have 15K miles on them and between 5/32 & 6/32" tread left. I will post up additional info in the market forum once I get them off and back home to ensure they are actually still good. I would ask for local pickup and can meet somewhere reasonable close to the NW suburbs. Will ask $50 each or $125 for all (3). PM me if interested.
 
Attached Thumbnails Arggghhh...the pothole pirates got me!-tire-damage-rf_pirelli-runflat_01_20180314.jpg   Arggghhh...the pothole pirates got me!-tire-damage-rf_pirelli-runflat_02_20180314.jpg  
  #2  
Old 03-19-2018, 06:08 PM
Fly'n Brick
Fly'n Brick is offline
6th Gear
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: In the here and now, for now.
Posts: 4,261
Likes: 0
Received 129 Likes on 117 Posts
Here's a great resource if your next pot hole dings the wheel or knocks it out of round. I've used them twice and they do a fine job.
http://www.awrswheelrepair.com/
 
  #3  
Old 03-19-2018, 06:10 PM
vetsvette's Avatar
vetsvette
vetsvette is offline
Moderator
iTrader: (5)
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: South Central Virginia
Posts: 3,794
Received 370 Likes on 290 Posts
Dude! Who have you pissed off lately? Looks like someone stabbed your tire to me.
Smart move to go ahead and replace all four. Hope you have better luck with the new set.
 
  #4  
Old 03-19-2018, 06:15 PM
Mini_Vinnie's Avatar
Mini_Vinnie
Mini_Vinnie is offline
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 1,521
Received 221 Likes on 182 Posts
Check the alignment too
 
  #5  
Old 03-20-2018, 06:17 PM
WhatV8's Avatar
WhatV8
WhatV8 is offline
3rd Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Streamwood, IL
Posts: 293
Received 37 Likes on 32 Posts
Originally Posted by vetsvette View Post
Dude! Who have you pissed off lately? Looks like someone stabbed your tire to me.
Smart move to go ahead and replace all four. Hope you have better luck with the new set.
It does look like a knife wound doesn't it! The inner RF layer saved the day with that tire for sure, but that tires is now on its way to becoming a recycled resource, as I got the new BFG's on this afternoon...
 
The following users liked this post:
MiniTigger (06-07-2018)
  #6  
Old 03-20-2018, 06:22 PM
WhatV8's Avatar
WhatV8
WhatV8 is offline
3rd Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Streamwood, IL
Posts: 293
Received 37 Likes on 32 Posts
Originally Posted by Mini_Vinnie View Post
Check the alignment too
So far, car still runs true without any pulling. Will do a quick camber check when I can feel my fingers outside, still 30 deg F and hella windy today. If something shows off, I will certainly get into the alignment shop.

I am surprised the rim didn't take any damage, but my last pothole sniper in my former Legacy actually put (2) sidewall splits in the Conti DWS's I was running and not even a mark on the rim. Sometimes I wonder if it would almost be better to hit the pothole dead center rather than clipping it on an edge. That way both sidewalls would take the load rather than a single.
 
  #7  
Old 03-20-2018, 06:40 PM
WhatV8's Avatar
WhatV8
WhatV8 is offline
3rd Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Streamwood, IL
Posts: 293
Received 37 Likes on 32 Posts
Here are a couple of pics of the new shoes.

So far with ~20 miles on them they ride pretty comparable to the OEM Pirelli's. Bumps are maybe a bit softer, but only fractionally so. I think these BFG's have a pretty stiff sidewall, so not much change there. I did notice that the tires have a bit of a 'bong' sound when you hit a pavement crack as compared to the deadened 'thud' of the RF's. That is definitely a product of the different sidewall construction. There is also a low level 'hum' to the tires which is expected when looking at the tread pattern, nothing annoying just an observation. As I get some miles on these I will see if anything crops up, but for now I am happy with my choice.
 
Attached Thumbnails Arggghhh...the pothole pirates got me!-tire-comparison-pirelli_bfg_000_20180320.jpg   Arggghhh...the pothole pirates got me!-tire-comparison-pirelli_bfg_12_20180320.jpg  
The following users liked this post:
MiniTigger (06-07-2018)
  #8  
Old 03-20-2018, 07:12 PM
vetsvette's Avatar
vetsvette
vetsvette is offline
Moderator
iTrader: (5)
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: South Central Virginia
Posts: 3,794
Received 370 Likes on 290 Posts
Originally Posted by WhatV8 View Post
I did notice that the tires have a bit of a 'bong' sound when you hit a pavement crack as compared to the deadened 'thud' of the RF's. That is definitely a product of the different sidewall construction. There is also a low level 'hum' to the tires which is expected when looking at the tread pattern, nothing annoying just an observation.
That's what they make the volume **** for.
 
  #9  
Old 03-21-2018, 08:30 PM
WhatV8's Avatar
WhatV8
WhatV8 is offline
3rd Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Streamwood, IL
Posts: 293
Received 37 Likes on 32 Posts
Originally Posted by vetsvette View Post
That's what they make the volume **** for.
Yep, that black rectangular thing under my right foot!!
 
  #10  
Old 06-07-2018, 08:44 AM
Pseudarius
Pseudarius is offline
1st Gear
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I had a pretty bad run-in with a pot hole myself recently. The inner layer of the RF still held up but I was not willing to test it as I had several bridges/tunnels to cross between Brooklyn and NJ. I had Roadside service flat-bed me to Mini of Manhattan and they quoted me at a similar $230/tire, but ended up only charging $200 (replaced both front as the passenger side also had a bump in the sidewall).

These tires only had 11K miles on them and I registered the tires with Pirelli when I picked up the vehicle, so I dropped the two tires with an authorized dealer near me to see if there's any chance this would be covered under their warranty. It's a long shot, but worth a try. Anyone ever use the Pirelli warranty?



How is this still holding air??
 
  #11  
Old 06-07-2018, 10:19 AM
MiniTigger's Avatar
MiniTigger
MiniTigger is offline
5th Gear
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 1,079
Received 36 Likes on 31 Posts
Originally Posted by WhatV8 View Post
Here are a couple of pics of the new shoes.

So far with ~20 miles on them they ride pretty comparable to the OEM Pirelli's. Bumps are maybe a bit softer, but only fractionally so. I think these BFG's have a pretty stiff sidewall, so not much change there. I did notice that the tires have a bit of a 'bong' sound when you hit a pavement crack as compared to the deadened 'thud' of the RF's. That is definitely a product of the different sidewall construction. There is also a low level 'hum' to the tires which is expected when looking at the tread pattern, nothing annoying just an observation. As I get some miles on these I will see if anything crops up, but for now I am happy with my choice.

Looks like Comp2 A/S. I run the same tire - and love it. I don't notice any hum in mine.
 
  #12  
Old 06-13-2018, 07:19 PM
WhatV8's Avatar
WhatV8
WhatV8 is offline
3rd Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Streamwood, IL
Posts: 293
Received 37 Likes on 32 Posts
Originally Posted by Pseudarius View Post
<snip>

These tires only had 11K miles on them and I registered the tires with Pirelli when I picked up the vehicle, so I dropped the two tires with an authorized dealer near me to see if there's any chance this would be covered under their warranty. It's a long shot, but worth a try. Anyone ever use the Pirelli warranty?



How is this still holding air??

That is 10x worse than my sidewall breech, holy smokes!! I agree with your assessment and wonder if you received anything from Pirelli on the warranty side?
 
  #13  
Old 06-13-2018, 07:21 PM
WhatV8's Avatar
WhatV8
WhatV8 is offline
3rd Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Streamwood, IL
Posts: 293
Received 37 Likes on 32 Posts
Originally Posted by MiniTigger View Post
Looks like Comp2 A/S. I run the same tire - and love it. I don't notice any hum in mine.

Yep Comp2 A/S, they are a great tire! After a few hundred miles they wore off the edges a bit and became quiet. Only time they make 'noise' per se is under cornering load, but not much anything in a straight line. They survived an HPDE with only losing their outer corners a bit .
 
  #14  
Old 06-13-2018, 07:23 PM
WhatV8's Avatar
WhatV8
WhatV8 is offline
3rd Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Streamwood, IL
Posts: 293
Received 37 Likes on 32 Posts
BTW, if anyone is interested I have my (3) remaining OEM tires for sale here:


https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...225-45r17.html


Figured I should mention it to anyone who wants an OEM donut with a little over 1/2 the life left.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Krut
DC Metro MINIs (Archive)
6
09-03-2007 08:48 PM
Krut
DC Metro MINIs (Archive)
6
05-27-2006 06:21 AM
BoCRon
Interior/Exterior
25
01-29-2006 12:42 PM
Rocketman
R50/R53 :: Hatch Talk (2002-2006)
7
10-21-2004 02:12 PM
zgokart
Off-Topic
3
03-12-2004 10:09 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Arggghhh...the pothole pirates got me!


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: