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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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Does BBS make an 18" to fit the MCS?

Does anyone know if they make an 18" 4x100 pattern wheel that will work with our cars?
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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We have several 18's that will work, but none from BBS.

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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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racinbmw- like this one?

http://www.gmpperformance.com/index....eel&PID=113884
 
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by racinbmw
Does anyone know if they make an 18" 4x100 pattern wheel that will work with our cars?
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no. see for yourself at BBS.com.

Click on "English" (upper right corner).
Click on "Products".
Click on "For Automotive".
Click on "automotive".
Drag down and click on "BMW Mini."
Drag down and click on "Mini."

If it's not offered here, it's (1) not a current BBS offering, (2) not determined by BBS to be a wheel compatible with the MINI. There are other (discontinued) BBS wheels that may fit. See Tire Rack. But they're not recommeded by BBS. I corresponded withe BBS tech here in Germany and they won't indorse anything but what's on the website.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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I am just curious what wheel on that page is 4x100 18"?

I only saw the 17" CV..

And Stevie B what wheels were ever made 4x100 18" by BBS? I do not care wether they have been endorsed or not
 
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Passat774
I am just curious what wheel on that page is 4x100 18"?

I only saw the 17" CV..

And Stevie B what wheels were ever made 4x100 18" by BBS? I do not care wether they have been endorsed or not

ooops, for some reason i was thinking my G35C's bolt pattern of 5x114.3... sorry.

in my head 4x100 and 5x114.3 are the ones that work...so got mixed up.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 07:41 PM
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I will email BBS and see if they ever have made anything or if there are any plans to make anything...

G35 equals :0
 
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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Spoke with BBS today and he stated that BBS of Germany will not allow them to build 18" 4x100 wheels for whatever reasons
 
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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Wow you guys are a great help.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Stevie B
no. see for yourself at BBS.com.

Click on "English" (upper right corner).
Click on "Products".
Click on "For Automotive".
Click on "automotive".
Drag down and click on "BMW Mini."
Drag down and click on "Mini."

If it's not offered here, it's (1) not a current BBS offering, (2) not determined by BBS to be a wheel compatible with the MINI. There are other (discontinued) BBS wheels that may fit. See Tire Rack. But they're not recommeded by BBS. I corresponded withe BBS tech here in Germany and they won't indorse anything but what's on the website.
That's not necessarily true. The BBS RV-F isn't on the German BBS site, but it is on the Japanese BBS site and was designed for the Mini. I was trying like hell to get a set when I lived in Germany because I had a very good BBS hook up, but was never able to. Since they're made in Japan and not in Germany I suspect it was some kind of hold up for TüV approval, but I'm not sure. BBS Germany just kept telling me they were on the way ... then I moved
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 03:53 AM
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There are 3 BBS wheels in 17" that will fit a MINI: RG-R (17x7), RV-F (17x7) and LM (17x7.5). They are only available from BBS Japan though. BBS does not make any 4x100 wheels in 18" in anywhere. I think the LM will look pretty cool on a MINI.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by CheckmateMini
There are 3 BBS wheels in 17" that will fit a MINI: RG-R (17x7), RV-F (17x7) and LM (17x7.5). They are only available from BBS Japan though. BBS does not make any 4x100 wheels in 18" in anywhere. I think the LM will look pretty cool on a MINI.
Of the 3 listed, only the LM is considered by BBS Germany as compatible with the MINI (this is from personal inquiries, not just whether it's on the site). And yes, the LM is nice, but it's 18.9 lbs and not cheap by any means. But it does win the worst-bang-for-the-buck-award for a high-end road wheel. The 18" O.Z. Superleggera is probably the best-bang-for-the-buck. Happy hunting.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ///ACS330Ci
That's not necessarily true. The BBS RV-F isn't on the German BBS site, but it is on the Japanese BBS site and was designed for the Mini. I was trying like hell to get a set when I lived in Germany because I had a very good BBS hook up, but was never able to. Since they're made in Japan and not in Germany I suspect it was some kind of hold up for TüV approval, but I'm not sure. BBS Germany just kept telling me they were on the way ... then I moved
THe LM is made in Japan and on the German BBS website. There's only one importer of Japan BBS wheels in Germany. Price on all these wheels is more than I want to spend, although I'd love to have them. The LM is the choice one.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 08:06 AM
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I'm a big fan of BBS myself as I had the RC, the LMs (19x11) and currently the Magnesium Race wheels on my E36.

The one wheel I really wish is still available are the RS. Any of you guys remember those? This would look awesome on a mini with an agressive offset and the right size tires.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Stevie B
THe LM is made in Japan and on the German BBS website. There's only one importer of Japan BBS wheels in Germany. Price on all these wheels is more than I want to spend, although I'd love to have them. The LM is the choice one.
Each wheel for sale in Germany is required to get TüV approval for each different fitment and that process can take time. It doesn't matter if another BBS Japan manufactured wheel already has TüV approval. Besides, my point was that every wheel BBS makes that fits the Mini is not listed on BBS Germany's site as you stated.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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The one wheel I really wish is still available are the RS. Any of you guys remember those? This would look awesome on a mini with an agressive offset and the right size tires.
These? I was so upset when i turned up too late and they were already sold. Its the perfect sizing

http://www.memoryfab.com/wheels/used...0050615135308/
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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lm or custom order
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ///ACS330Ci
Each wheel for sale in Germany is required to get TüV approval for each different fitment and that process can take time. It doesn't matter if another BBS Japan manufactured wheel already has TüV approval. Besides, my point was that every wheel BBS makes that fits the Mini is not listed on BBS Germany's site as you stated.
There are also a lot of German-made BBS wheels that BBS doesn't recommend for the MINI and that retailers like GMP and Tire Rack sell for the MINI. Examples are the RC, RK, and RZ. None forged of course. My disappointment with BBS in regards to the MINI is that all the German offerings are nearly as heavy as MINI's accessory wheels. My BBS-made R99s are only a few ounces heavier than the CV and RX, and just over a pound heavier than the RF. So why spend for aftermarket? I'm also disappointed that more companies don't make wheels for the MINI in the +45~50 offset range. What that tells you is the MINI isn't the primarly target car for many of the wheels made. Considering MINI owners are apt to buy aftermarket wheels, they're missing a golden opportunity, especially BBS. Until companies like BBS or OZ make a wheel with the proper offset, I'm sticking with my R99s.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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That's one of the reasons I was trying to get these off the ground

http://www.racmonolites.com/cars/15.jpg

Unforunately no one was interested or at least willing to pay the price for an extremely high quality forged wheel. I posted on quite a few BMW/Mini forums trying to generate more interest, but even the people who expressed interest on the forums never took the time to post on RAC Monolites website so I pretty much gave up. Now RAC Monolites are pressing on with the development of their 3rd or 4th forged wheel design for the M3.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RallyMINI
These? I was so upset when i turned up too late and they were already sold. Its the perfect sizing

http://www.memoryfab.com/wheels/used...0050615135308/

Nice link cool wheels
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RallyMINI
These? I was so upset when i turned up too late and they were already sold. Its the perfect sizing

http://www.memoryfab.com/wheels/used...0050615135308/

YESS.. that is the one. Truly the perfect size and offset.

I wonder if BBS have a 4x100 magnesium centers. I can have matching wheels.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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YESS.. that is the one. Truly the perfect size and offset.

I wonder if BBS have a 4x100 magnesium centers. I can have matching wheels.
The new BBS GT2 in Aluminium is both lighter and stronger then the old version that was made in Magnesium.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fj0
The new BBS GT2 in Aluminium is both lighter and stronger then the old version that was made in Magnesium.
Not true, magnesium is still lighter. Trust me on this one The new GT2 is made out of forged aluminum centers which make them stronger than the magnesiums which is definetly a plus. They both use the same outers and inners though as well as the very desireable titanium fasteners.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jonsibal
Not true, magnesium is still lighter. Trust me on this one The new GT2 is made out of forged aluminum centers which make them stronger than the magnesiums which is definetly a plus. They both use the same outers and inners though as well as the very desireable titanium fasteners.
You sure Jon? I'm not really 100% I just read they were at two different forums.


http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/s...=bbs+magnesium
 
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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Mario, I got my info directly from BBS - Motorsport Division. I was actually sponsored by them for a while there and had a pretty good rapport with the head of the motorsport division. Unfortunately he no longer works there. But they were always helpful when I call, even now.

According to their notes, the weight of the forged aluminum CENTER is slightly heavier than the cast magnesium center. Note that this is only for the centers not with the 2 rim halves. The difference is not that much but "technically" they weigh differently.

Different combination of outers and inner rim halves can also vary the weight if you measure them assembled. The outers comes in TA-35, TA-40, and TA-50. and the Inner comes in TI-40 and TI-50. The T stands for Type and the A stands for äußer which is German for Outer. I stands for Inner.

The numbers represents the thickness of the material;
TA-35 is 35mm
TA-40 is 40mm
TA-50 is 50mm
TI-40 is 40mm
TI-50 is 50mm

Obviously, if all else is equal, the thicker the material, the heavier it would be.

So for example, if the forged aluminum wheel is using a TA-35 and TI-40 rim halves while the magnesium wheel is using a TA-50 and TI-50, then with this combination, the aluminum will come out lighter. BUT if both are using the same inner and outer part #s then magnesiums should come out lighter.

This is how I understood it. I'm not an expert on this or anything but I just had to learn all this when I was ordering my wheels and helping a friend out get the new forged aluminum version.

When I ordered mine, the aluminum version wasn't out yet but IF I would get another set again, I would opt for the forged aluminum. I can post more info about their forging process but this is getting too long. I would run the GT2 in my wife's mini but man, they are $$$.

Anyways, hope this info helped.
 
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