Does anyone have experience with the Wilwood Big Brake kits (either the 12.19 inch (310mm) or the 11.75 inch (298mm))? I am looking for a brake kit that is compatible with SSR Competition wheels in 16 x 6.5 or 7 and was wondering if either of the Wilwood products worked. Any feedback on the Wilwood brakes being used on the street and light track application (weekend autocross) would be appreciated. I have also considered the JCW Sport Brake kit, but am leaning toward the Wilwood - 310mm rotors vs. 295mm (if the 310 rotors will clear the SSR Comp wheels), 4 piston caliper vs. single piston, and better pad options with the Wilwood.

 

If I recall correctly, the 12.19" would not work for you. I have the Race (11.75"), and they fit my 16x7 +42 Volk CE28Ns beautifully. I have a thread somewhere here on them if you do a search... I'm sure Todd (TCE) will chime-in here also...

 

i've got the 11.75 wilwood kit-with SSR comps 15 X 7 they fit but there was absolutely minimum clearance- couldn't even get piece of paper betweem cacaliper and rim. I used 5mm spacers and all is fine- ran many track days. You may have to move weights back if they are toward front of wheel. hope this helps

 

How are the wilwoods in everyday street use. Are they noisy? What pads are you guys using on street and track. How easy is it to change. What do you use in the rear. I have heard they are noisy on the street because they do not make a soft compound.
Thanks much.
Wes

 

How are the wilwoods in everyday street use. Are they noisy?

Answer: With street pads =No noise
With Race Pads = Some Squeeking, as expected

 

I have their street Q pads, and noise, as well as dust is not an issue. In the rear, I added StopTech ss brakelines/hoses, a caliper stiffening kit, and Hawk pads (virtually no dust also). Along with fluid changes, I'm otherwise done with my braking mods, and very happy with this set-up!

 

Great

Thanks Guys. Does anyone know of any 16" wheels that have proven to work with the larger kit? Are you guys running the larger it or the 11.75 kit.

Tony
Is there any downside to the Turner caliper bushings? Any noise or vibration?

Thanks again.
Wes

 

with the 11.75 kit, i run E pads street & track. Pads take 1 minute to change- nice. Very minimal squeel with light pedal on street, great on track.

On rear Ferodo 2500 pads, metal bushings replacing stock rubber
no issues on street or track. nice upgrade

 

I'm running the 12.19" kit behind 16x7 SSR Comps. No rubbing, no problems. PM me if you want more specifics.

Forgot to mention: these allow the easiest pad-changes ever. Period.

 

Where did you get the rear caliper stiffening kit? How is the "driveability" of your brake system modification? By driveability, I am referring to:

- An absence of pulling to one side or the other when the brakes are suddenly applied;
- An absence of squeeling and dusting with the Q pad compound (based on TonyB's response - #6 above, it would appear that with Q pads, the dusting is significantly less than the stock pads from the factory; and from red_rage's response - #5 above, there is no noise on application of the brakes with the Q pads); and
- A shortened stopping distance for 60 - 0 mph (compared to stock or JCW Sport Brake kit) and an absence of fading after repeated stops.

 

Are you running the Anthracite SSR's? If so, I think I will change my order from silver to anthracite.

 

just did a search on "caliper stiffening" and got it:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...per+stiffening

the e pads come with the race kit (11.75"), and i've heard that they also have minimal dust. i just wanted a less abrasive, and more quiet pad for my canyon commuter.

with a bbk up front, there is really not much needed in the back. i would love to have the same calipers in the rear though as pad changing would be a breeze...

 

Yes, completely de-badged (except the center-caps). I just didn't like all that busy-ness all over the spokes.

 

Unfortunately, so would snap-oversteer...

 

Nice one, A-Man!

 

We could do up a rear kit like this if you want one.

The issue is not rear wheel lock up (I can work that out of it) but the loss of the parking brake that most folks don't like.

 

Todd - Are there any rear brake kits that keep the parking brake? If not, I assume that's because of the caliper. What about keeping the stock caliper, but replacing the stock rotor with a 2 piece hat and rotor to save weight? Are there any weight loss to be had here, or is the main weight loss coming from replacing stock cast iron calipers with aluminum ones?

 

This is already available from TCE. I've been using it now for quite a while and like it very much.
See Todd's website here... http://www.tceperformanceproducts.co...s.pl?record=13

 

That's correct, the current rear kit keeps the stock caliper thus the parking brake. It's 'rotor enlargement' kit I guess you could say.

A caliper kit could be put together for the rear but it would have a lot of limitations. The loss of the parking brake seeing as it's in the caliper and finding a suitable piston area part may prove difficult. With the rotor alone the bias is elevated slitghtly. With too much area this would be further enhanced. Not really a good idea to go overboard there.

In short; it could be done but I doubt there'd be more than a couple of takers for all out track use.

 

Hey, that's slick... When did you start offering that?

Are there any of the caveats that usually go with the front kits? Any bits to grind, file or otherwise cut down?

 

The rear kit was offered from day one. Or a few days later at the most. Been about a year maybe?

I wouldn't really call it an all out performance part. Rather it's targeted more towards the "I have a front kit and my rear rotos look too small" comments!

Front Wilwood box kits are a straight bolt on.
The larger 13" TCE kits do require minimal clearance grinding of the steering knuckle- not all that much but yes it is needed.

*if it were that hard I'd not be offering the FREE SHIPPING and INSTALL at the NorCal meet at the end of this month!

 

Oops, I wasn't clear: is it necessary to do any grinding for the rear kit?

 

Nada.