Hello so I’ve been doing my research regarding retrofitting r56 S brakes to r53 Cooper S.

Just trying to do the math here. Used calipers with carriers are around 130 bucks. Plus rebuild kit around 20 bucks. Can’t find them cheaper.
Plus new slotted rotors, pads, brake lines and sensors.

I found this https://www.carid.com/2007-mini-coop...088797614.html

anyone used this for the r53? Or r56?

Since it’s for the r56 i shouldnt have any problems fitting them right?

just need the carriers. Brake lines and sensors.

Thanks for the inputs.

 

I've never heard of this make. Best to see where its made first.

I would go with a better known name like Brembo . . . . .

 

Brembo or wile oof will be best. But that’s way up there. Itching to save some cash

 

I did the R56 S brake upgrade on my old r53. I bought rotors, calipers and pads from AutoAnything in a kit by Stop Tech and was very happy with it. I don't think you need to mortgage your house for Brembo or Wilwood to get good stopping power.

 

You have part numbers for the rotors? Or diameter got a good deal for calipers and carriers.

Or this will work?

 

Have you checked out this? https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...rakes-kit.html

 

Thank you

 

Yep

 

So just to be clear. I need r56 sensors for the front correct?
And i can reuse the rear if hasn’t tripped yet?

 

Also can you send me a link of r56 brake lines please. Regular and stainless steel. And also brake sensors for the front. Thank You you sites amazing but it doesn’t take me the right parts right away.

 

Yep,

R56 Front brake lines: You just need the fronts, https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2007-...Braking/Lines/

R56 Brake sensor front: https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2007-...aking/Sensors/

Just shop it like another model, the architecture is the same.

 

Let me ask a contrary question. Why bother with the brake upgrade? What about the current brakes are inadequate? If you're tracking the car, get race pads. If that's not enough, plumb some cooling in. If you want shorter stopping distances, put on softer tires. 99x out of a hundred, I'd argue, the primary advantage of a brake upgrade is being able to tell your buddies "big brakes".

 

Its because i can. That’s why i love the mini. Always something to do

 

So i can’ post that i did it here on NAM 😉

 

I withdraw my objection. Every boy should have cool projects. <salute>.

 

Actually you need our front conversion lines as they are designed for the R56 to R53 conversion. R56 lines won't fit correctly as they are not made to fit an R53 since the ends are different.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/stainl...rsion-kit.html

Actually this brake upgrade is the same as original JCW upgrade was. If you drive one with these brakes you'll see the car stops much better.
Buying a softer more performance tire would just wear out faster for street use. But we do also use them for the performance gain.

 

I certainly accept that you've huge Mini experience, and that's a helova contrast to me. But that doesn't get a person a buy on a phrase as vague as "stops much better". Physics pls.
Brakes aren't that complicated. There's Front/Rear bias, firewall and caliper stiffness that results in a solid pedal feel, and heat resistance. Other variables that aren't occurring to me as I sit here with my beer? Heck, I'd argue that daily driver's are so front biased that if someone really wanted to shorten stopping distances w/o going to sticky tires, they'd delete the bias valve and put the big brake kit in the rear.

 

Thank You been looking for this.

What about the brake sensors?

 

It would be a very small house given that you can do a complete front BBK for about $900.

Makes looking at the alternatives and multi source shopping questionable.

 

You can still use your R53 brake sensors. But most people just tie them up rather than putting them in the pads so they don't have to worry about the light again.


Well if you drove a car with the standard brakes then one with the R56 or JCW you could see there is a day and night difference between the two. And why I say it "stops much better".
The R56 calipers are a solid mount unlike the stock R53 that have the rubber bushings if you want that variable.
And obviously the pads, rotors, and caliper pistons are all larger than the stock R53. The intern gives you more surface area, pad contact, and clamping force. Not to mention heat dissipation over repetitive use and hard use.
Since the R56 S calipers are the same size and pads that the R53 JCW brake kit was there isn't a concern over bias or brake pressure since it is making it the same as the JCW was that used everything else the same on the R53.
You can't "delete" the brake bias as it is built into the ABS unit so you can't delete it. And you would never want to make the bias to the rear as locking up the rear would make the car dangerous as it wouldn't be controllable at the point of lock.

 

Hi all, I am thinking of doing the R53 to R56 brake conversion but, I see some deals on used and new Gen 1 JCW brakes that are available. My question is; what is the performance gain of JCW Gen. 1 1-piston brake system vs Brembo/JCW 4 piston brakes? Is the performance gain the same as R53 brakes to Gen. 1 JCW brakes or is the cost/braking gain not beneficial to go Brembo.