Trying to find a good set of wheels for the MCS 2nd Gen SUCK. As a result, I am looking into changing the lugs from 4 to 5. Has anyone tried this or heard of anyone doing it? I see the newer F56 come with 5 lugs now. Has anyone attempted a retrofit? Let me know!

Thanks!

 

There's tons of wheels available for 4x100 bolt pattern. Yes it has been done by plenty of folks with 4 bolt lug patterns including MINI's. Your options are either not worth the time and money or a very unsafe 4x100 to 5x100 conversion plate. #notworthit

 

Not a plate, the actual hub.

And not for 4x100 in 18". Plenty in 17", but I am looking for 18

 

FYI when I had my Acura Integra GSR back in 2001, I changed my 4 lug hubs to the OEM Type R hubs (5x114) and had absolutely no unsafe issues across 8 years of owning and tracking the car...hence my question about the Mini.

There seems to not be as many DYI folks in this community as there have been in any of my other vehicles (Supra, SC300, GS350, Acura (NSX or GSR)). I am not sure if people just don't post/upload vids and DYI like we do in the other forums or not, but again, this is my reasoning for this post.

 

You could get custom hubs made for a ton of money. Or, you could just buy adaptors and run higher offset wheels to compensate. Tons of guys do that when they put Porsche or Salad shooters on, ect.

 

I purchased a set of 3 piece BBS 5 lug wheels that I will be putting on my R53. I plan on using the following company to get my conversion adapters.
http://www.42draftdesigns.com/wheel-...heel-adapters/

The guy from NAM that I purchased the wheels from uses these on his R53 and I'm sure they make them for the R56

Check out his tread:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...dest-look.html

 

Hey all

sorry to jump in here but want to replace my locks nuts with the standard lugs - can anyone confirm these are the correct specs? 2010 Cooper S Hatch
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-ecs-part...005770ecs01kt/
Bolt specifications:

• Diameter - 14mm
• Thread Pitch - 1.25mm
• Length - 27mm

 

hello,

Yep those will work with 7/2006+ R50-R59 MINI Coopers. You have a R56 MINI Cooper S, so it will work.

 

Wasn't there a direct BMW 5 lug hub swap available?

Motor On!

 

We dont have one. I dont remember one.

 

How about this idea-take a rotor from an F56 and put it on the R56 (one bolt holds it )and use extended studs to mount different size spacers to achieve your purpose. This goes on an assumption that MINI didn't change the bore sizing.
ISAMIN 0

 

Hey I know this is like a super old thread but I know other people are probably looking for this conversion, the first link is for the front ones
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/c...i/model/cooper
The second link is for the rear ones
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/c...oper/year/2003
and then this is the link on how to do them

 

Sorry, but where does it say those are 5-lug Mini hubs? This thread is for 4-lug to 5 lug conversions...

 

That's great. I have a set of 3 Piece BBS 17 in Wheels that have been sitting in my garage for a few years. I was looking at the conversion kits which required offsets, wasn't feeling that. This is a much better solution. One Question: How do you know which Brake Rotors to get?
Welcome to NAM...

 

Those hubs linked above are OEM style 4-lug hubs. The only available 4-to-5-lug conversion option for Minis is the adapter spacers

 

Seen it done on a Mark1 MINI (2002-2006) using 5x120 E39 M5 front hub assemblies and using MINI rotors machined to fit.....lots of welding and fabrication to MINI hub for rears, drilling and tapping....whole lotta work. But one is able to run really nice BMW wheels which can be had cheap on the BMW forums....

Excerpt of what he did: " 5x120...E39 M5 front hub assembly using on the rear...MINI rotor machined to fit. Front hubs are easy because they come apart. He sliced a piece of some thick wall pipe the same thickness as the hub flange and had a friend who owns Nutmeg Tool & Products weld it to the hub flange...screwed some studs in the factory holes and weld from the back...turn it smooth on a lathe. For the rear used a 3-jaw jig that sits on the Bridgeport miller table and rotates 360 degrees to transfer the 5x120 pattern on to the MINI hub flange, then drill and tap 12x1.5mm"

 

You are correct, I just called to verify if those were a 5 bolt conversion hub, they are not; they are OEM 4bolt hubs. Guess my BBS's will sit in the garage for awhile.

 

If you scroll down to see where it says check fit it will show you that it fits r50 and r53s

 

I'll give you that those are hubs for a Mini, but those are stock replacement hubs, not conversion hubs. Just because the picture shows a 5-lug hub, doesn't mean that's what you're getting... That's what this disclaimer means: "Image is a representation of this item. Actual item may vary."

 

Has anyone tried to just take the stock hubs and fill them in with weld and steel then just machine new threads. I’ve been contemplating this for quite some time. With regards to brakes I thought just converting to 2 piece rotors and spec’ing the hat for proper rotor back spacing and bolt pattern. I figured with new wheel bearing and modifying maybe a 1k. Rotors 1-1.5k front to back. Then 1-1.5k for a good set of flow formed wheels.

 

You'd be willing to spend $4-5k just to have 5-lug wheels? Seems excessive. Not to mention the maintenance headache with the custom rotors and wheel hubs. There are plenty of 4x100 wheels available to preclude the need for 5-lugs. Check for 17x8 wheels in the ND Miata world for some nice options that will bolt right up.

 

+1 If you want 4x100 wheel check out here:

https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2005-...market_Wheels/

BBS, NM, Team Dynamics, Konig, Enkei. TSW, Beyern etc...

We have been building our 4x100 catalog and adding more soon. I think we have more coverage and fitment then anyone else.

 

Yeah you both are right it would be quite expensive and sourcing replacement parts would be difficult but possible. I only started looking into this again because Enkei discontinued the NT03+M 17x7.5" wheels 45mm offset. In the passed ive tried various 17x8" 40mm offset all had a large amount of poke unlike the NT03+m. When you narrow the search to 17x8" or 17x7.5" there are even less wheels that one fit and two are at least flow formed for a reasonable price. The initial price for the bearings are over the counter price since id be starting from scratch and having them modified. The rotors would be no more expensive for replacement discs since there 2 piece floating hats. Its no doubt the large expense all at once that is for sure but if i wanted to get 2 piece rotors eventually might as well do it then and the wheels are no additional cost since id be in the market for wheels anyway. lol my backwards rational sees that im getting a set of wheels i want, a set of brakes i want and additional cost for both items that dont improve the vehicle is the bearings. But yes id be willing to spend an extra $1k to have access to so many more wheels. I know on paper it sounds ridiculous but 4x100 is dying off and you would be future proofing.

 

We are adding more 4x100 and they are strong in JDM fitments. The more companies we add in 4x100 the more we surpass Tirerack and etc... which i have already done.

Fitment is what we do here and for MINI we go beyond what the normal places say fit as we have the knowledge, wheels and MINIs here. Plus we have wheel spacers for 4x100 making BBK fit.

 

That setup in the photo is what i came from. I didnt like what happened to scrub radius(due large spacer) and how steering felt with bumps. At the time i was driving round trip 75 miles so i notice significant tire wear too(alignment was good i checked it when i installed the spacers". I did want to run wider "fitted" tires and not squish them on the standard 7" wheels. I also didnt want to buy the GP wheels.

But that is great new stuff is coming out. My interests are flow form(strength and weight saving) 17X7.5 or 8" with 45mm off set. Ill have to check next week but current setup NT03+M I need 3-4mm spacer to clear caliper with little to no protrusion. I will be checking periodically