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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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Need cheap decent tires fast

Tire popped on runflats they cannot patch runflats. 300 a peice. Do not want to pay, rather buy 4 new ones, anyone know decent tires at a very low price that will fit my mini cooper s. 17x7 I would like them to be the same size as the runflats. I need help finding some I am in a bind and need my car back.

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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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I have used both of the following (in 16") on my MINI.

Performance - Yokohama AVS ES100
All Season - BF Goodrich Traction T/A V

They are pretty reasonably priced (~$75 per tire - again that'ts 16")
 
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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Yokohama ES-100's are one of the favorite tires for 17" wheels.

They make them in the stock 205-45-17, but many of us prefer a slightly wider 215-45-17 size for extra grip!

They are about $100 each from tire rack. . . .
 

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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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go to ebay and search for 205 45 17 there are a few and if you want all for for under $200 i sugest you get the wanli 205 40 17 i have them there great, and at $50 a pop there inexspencive.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 01:35 PM
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kyle,
What an opportunity to shed the run flats.
BigO at Empresa and Antonio sells Yokos. Tire Rack can probably ship from Reno with a two day delivery.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 01:41 PM
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I just bought Falken 512s in 17" size for less than $90.00. I got a chance to thrash four different Falken tires on an autocross track set up for the Mazda Rev it Up program. I put them on my Cooper and love them. Quiet, not to harsh and sticky.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by kyle00
Tire popped on runflats they cannot patch runflats. 300 a peice. Do not want to pay, rather buy 4 new ones, anyone know decent tires at a very low price that will fit my mini cooper s. 17x7 I would like them to be the same size as the runflats. I need help finding some I am in a bind and need my car back.

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I have four Dunlop 9000 Runflats from my 04 MCS with only 550 miles on each that I will sell you for $100 apiece.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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Not to be rude, but screw run flats. They are useless. The only thing they are good for is you can drive on them up to a certain amount of miles to get to a dealer or tire place if one goes flat. Then once you get there you have to pay upwards of 300 bucks for a new one. Patching cannot be done on runflats. So what you are paying for is 300 hundred bucks to drive yourself to the dealer and not getting it towed. What a deal!!!

So here is what I have going on, either I will be getting new tires, most likely the ones you guys have listed (much appreciated) or I am going to buy one new tire for almost 300. Does anyone know if runflats last a long time? Is that why they cost so much? What is there purpose? I have heard they can last up to 80,000 miles if thats true i will just go ahead and get the one and hopefully they will all last me a long while.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Miniracer_03
go to ebay and search for 205 45 17 there are a few and if you want all for for under $200 i sugest you get the wanli 205 40 17 i have them there great, and at $50 a pop there inexspencive.
Which are wider tires the ones that say 40 or 45. Just curious.

I would like to keep them the exact same size as my runflats or maybe a little wider, no smaller. I just want to make sure it fits if they are wider.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 02:39 PM
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Kyle,

You can get a real good deal on Yokohamas at Tucker Tire on Crown Valley, accross from the COSTCO. Talk to John Tucker, I got my 205/45/17s there for less than $450 out the door including lifetime rotation and flat fixes. I have been buying tires from John for 10 years and their service is always outstanding. They also have the special equipment that aids in removal of run flat tires. Not an easy job with standard tire machines, hard on the rims.

80,000 miles on stock run flats is not even close to any number I have ever heard in the past. Very few people who drive their cars hard have ever seen a 30,000 mile life from these tires.

40 or 45 is the aspect ratio of the sidewall height to the width.
205 or 215 is the width of the tire.

215/40/17s are about the same diameter as the 205/45/17s just a little wider. 10mm to be exact. The main difference is the sidewalls are shorter on the 40 series tire, making the ride a little rougher.
 

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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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I would go there, if my car wasnt stuck in santa ana at the mini dealer. I would have to get it towed again and have it taken there. At the moment I am trying to see what the dealership can offer me and if they can match some prices. 450 out the door would be nice... MINI/BMW charges 105 to rotate and balance... f ing crooks. So I am waiting for the call at the moment.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 04:26 PM
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The fact that it's a runflat does not mean that it can't be patched. The method for repair is exactly the same. Of course, like any tire that's been repaired, it should not be used at high speed. To tell you it can't be repaired because it's runflat is dishonest and an attempt to take your money.
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 04:43 PM
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I replaced my runflats with Yoko AVS ES 100's over a year ago. They ride and handle amazingly. An important thing to remember is that Ultra Hight Performance tires like the AVS's are not all season. They are great in the rain but if you have to drive on any amount of ice or snow during the year, forget about it. If that's never a problem where you live I'd reccomend them as year-round tires. I'm about to replace mine after about 30k miles including some hard driving.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 04:51 PM
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I would like to know where DiD is buying his tires at $75.00? I haven't found them at that price.
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kyle00
So here is what I have going on, either I will be getting new tires, most likely the ones you guys have listed (much appreciated) or I am going to buy one new tire for almost 300.
Whatever you do don't buy one from the dealer. Much cheaper if you buy from tirerack.com (TTR) and have it shipped. The run-flat replacement I got from TTR was under $200.00!! :smile:
 
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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they can be patched/plugged

put a plug in a pir'lli run flat better that 2 months ago

running fine (reballanced at the time of the plug)

Have 24,000 on mine and they look like they have plenty of life left

Guess I don't drive 'em hard enuf

Maybe 'cuz I drive my '79 harder.....

All I've found is you need a good tire/mechanic shop.

Heck, I don't take my 10 x 6 MiniLites to anyone!!!!
 
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 06:05 PM
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I caught a nail and patched a Euphori@ runflat when my car was 3 weeks old and about 1500 miles on the tire. You have to break it down and patch from the inside. The runflats have an extremely stiff and tuff sidewall that is likely impossible to patch or plug. Depending on how big the hole is (up to about 1/4") I wouldn't hesitate to plug/patch. Some shops are concerned about liability or just want to make some easy money so they'll push a replacement. The patch is a more dependable fix if done right and you'll never have a minutes trouble with the tire.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 06:09 PM
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So should I tell the guy I have been talking to that they can be patched? Should I try and tell him how to patch it? That would be awkward. Not sure what I should do now.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 06:15 PM
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I've had two of my original run-flats patched/plugged. The catch is, you have to choose a tire shop that knows what they're doing and the other is luck. Yep, luck....the puncture cannot be close to the sidewall or the edge of the tire.

It's like a plug with a patch. They work very well.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 06:18 PM
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Find a good shop that will patch it for you for a reasonable price. Take the wheel from the car, get it fixed, put it back on and drive away. Then take your time to shop for new tires if you don't feel comfortable.

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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 06:30 PM
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One last thing before I start calling places to see if they can patch runflats, the guy at the dealer, who I just got off the phone with, told me that if I went with a new set of tires that they would have to reprogram my computer so my light wouldnt be going on anymore, for a lsight charge of course. I am calling ******** again. Is he talking about resetting the tire gauge/pressure light. Have any of you that have had new tires put on had to pay to get your computer reprogrammed? Just curious, I think he is trying to get any money he can for me.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 06:33 PM
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I'm glad this came up.

One of my original runflats is losing about 1/2 psi of pressure a day. The dealer is 200 miles away, and I don't think I'd want to take it there anyway.

I'm happy the hear that you can in fact patch them. But here's my question: How hard is it to find a place that will service run flats competently? Am I better off just putting air in it once a week and saving the headache of trying to find a competent tire shop?
 
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 06:37 PM
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Sounds like more BS. All you need to do is reset your computer, a 10 second job.

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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 07:01 PM
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Thought the computer reset crap was stupid also... Well I ended up going for the stupid run flat, to much of a hassle once it is at the dealership. And I need my car back and couldnt order any other kind of tires and get it to them without them charging me 105 bucks for balancing and putting them on.

The moral of the story? DO NOT GET RUNFLATS THEY ARE A WASTE OF MONEY!!! AND NEVER GET YOUR CAR TOWED BACK TO THE DEALER THEY ARE CROOKS!!! FIND A GOOD MECHANIC/TIRE SHOP THAT YOU CAN PUT A LITTLE BIT OF FAITH INTO.

countrym: Do not o to the dealer, unless you want to pay for another runflat that will cost you 300bucks like mine did. I'd say keep filling it up with air every once and a while and look into getting some new tires.

I also asked the guy I have been dealing with what the life expectancy of the run flats are, at least he didnt lie on this one. He said he hasnt seen any of them go past the 30,000 mark, and he said thats with rotating them every 4 to 5k. He said they are very soft tires and wear down pretty quick.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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Foul!

wow, what a crook. I had a similar experience, nail in the runflat (actually, 2 at the same time), still drivable, wanted to have the tire patched. Took it to a reputable tire shop, charged 70 clams to patch each tire!

They got the tires off, patched one, noticed a slash on the sidewall of the second tire, inside the tire! They told me they couldn't put the tire back on. Wanted to charge me 300 clams for a new runflat. I said, screw it, put the snows on, drove away.

2 weeks later, decided on the Proxes4 from edgeracing, have never looked back.

Oh, and reprogramming was not necessary, just reset the runflat sensor.
 
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