I was looking at getting better brakes for track use, i think i found the kit i want for the front
http://www.waymotorworks.com/wilwood...1.75-race.html

but i was wondering if anyone has put the front stock brakes on the rear of the car? they are better and bigger so it seams like it would be better to me. Does anyone know if this will work?

 

I'm thinking that without going to a higher volume master cylinder....you might have issues... The added weight (and now lack of e-brake/Parking brake) might make the swap less benifical.....

 

I never even thought about tje parking break ya that's probably not the best idea then lol. I have 2 sets of front pads and rotors too I was just trying to put them to good use

 

That kit is really on the "low end" for track duty, it's almost a lateral move rather than a step up, depending on what stock brakes you have. If you have the original R53 brakes, it's an improvement, but if you're serious on the track, you're going to be wanting something better sooner rather than later. If you have the R56 style brakes, it's a lateral move.

Putting the front brakes on the rears is going to screw up brake bias, and as mentioned above, you'd probably need a larger master cylinder. The M3 E30 may fit with modification, but if you're thinking of doing that, you'd be better off with a "bigger" BBK in the first place.

 

Ya I have the r56 brakes maybe I would be better off just saving money anf geting a couple nice sets of the carbotech pads

 

If you already have R56 brakes, you could get a better pad/rotor combo, as well as stainless lines and better fluid. If you're still cooking em, then invest in a bigger kit.

 

I have the sp performance rotors and was using ebc yellow pads rbf600 fluid and tje ss lines from Detroit tuned I just wanted more lol but they did las me a whole season

 

This.

If you have the R56 brakes that Wilwood kit isn't much improvement. I'd do what tremper suggested, maybe add some cooling (brake ducts), and if that doesn't get you where you want to be then look at a BBK with either larger diameter or larger width rotors. If you're set on Wilwood, they make some good kits, may want to give Todd at TCE a call; Way has some other kits too that are a bigger step up than the kit you're looking at.

 

The smaller 11.75 kits are aimed mainly at the 15" wheel market. In fact if you run 15s yoiu may want to consider this: TRACK KIT

For anyone running 16s or 17s I would have to say money is better spent on larger disc kits.

 

I actually run a 12.19 x.81 rotor on a 15" wheel, but it's not a cheap setup. It does bring another set of headaches, mainly with cooling, but it's doable. The 11.75 x 1" rotor for the track setup you linked looks good, and it's well priced if you're married to 15's; if you're willing to go larger diameter, you've got some really nice kits for that, also well priced.

 

im defiantly looking to run 16's or 17's i think it sounds like my best bet is to try and find a good set of pads and see how that works out if not step up to a big brake kit thanks for your input everyone!

 

I use the 11.75 kit with 15" wheels on my R53 track car. With Poly B pad the stopping power is excellent. I did have to add brake ducts because I was cooking the brakes at the track. Now the setup works perfect. A 15" setup is harder to do because everything is so tight, but it has its advantages.

I prefer the benefits of the 15s. I run 225/45/15 r-comps. That width is harder to get on 16s or 17s without rubbing. The smaller diameter improves acceleration, the lighter weight (of the brakes and wheels and tires) help handling, and the lower cost helps the wallet (I go through lots of tires and pads).

 

I run a similar setup, 225/45/15's, 9 inch wide up front, 8 inch in the rear, and it's phenomenal. I do have slight rubbing, but with time, as the tire self corrects the trim, it's almost gone.

 

The 11.75 Wilwood kit can be a great track setup as I ran it for years on my race car. But if you want to move up from that the TSW setup we have with 1.25 wide rotors will last longer and handle more heat.
http://www.waymotorworks.com/tsw-bdm-brake-kit.html