R53 OEM brakes, JCW R53 Brakes, JCW R56 Brakes, what to get?
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R53 OEM brakes, JCW R53 Brakes, JCW R56 Brakes, what to get?
Hi guys:
It looks like I need to get new brakes soon on my 2004 R53 and I would very much appreciate hearing everyone's experience with these brakes. Several years back I replaced the OEM brakes with after market brakes for street use only. They are OK but they do not have the same bite as the OEM, although they lasted a long time. It seems to be a good, better, best type of scenario.
I have done research here on the forum, but still have several questions. How are the R53 JCW brakes different from the OEM brakes? Is there a big difference.
The R56 brakes are a 4 piston design. Is there a noticeable difference from the JCW 53 brakes. Will I have any fitment issues on my 2004. From what I have read it is pretty much bolt on with the 2005 models on.
Thank you for your replies!
It looks like I need to get new brakes soon on my 2004 R53 and I would very much appreciate hearing everyone's experience with these brakes. Several years back I replaced the OEM brakes with after market brakes for street use only. They are OK but they do not have the same bite as the OEM, although they lasted a long time. It seems to be a good, better, best type of scenario.
I have done research here on the forum, but still have several questions. How are the R53 JCW brakes different from the OEM brakes? Is there a big difference.
The R56 brakes are a 4 piston design. Is there a noticeable difference from the JCW 53 brakes. Will I have any fitment issues on my 2004. From what I have read it is pretty much bolt on with the 2005 models on.
Thank you for your replies!
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The R53 JCW brake kit is a great improvement from the standard R53 brakes. Plus the kit cost pretty good for what you get.
As for the R56 brakes, the standard R56 calipers are the same as the R53 JCW calipers. The 4 piston calipers you are talking about are from the R56 JCW brembo brake kit, that kit costs about $2k, so it's too much for the gain, a wilwood kit would be better money spent. Also the JCW R56 brembo brakes really limit you on wheel sizes.
As for the R56 brakes, the standard R56 calipers are the same as the R53 JCW calipers. The 4 piston calipers you are talking about are from the R56 JCW brembo brake kit, that kit costs about $2k, so it's too much for the gain, a wilwood kit would be better money spent. Also the JCW R56 brembo brakes really limit you on wheel sizes.
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how bout the Texas Speedworks Big Dirty ****** Kit now available at Way Motorsports?
http://www.waymotorworks.com/tsw-bdm-brake-kit.html
http://www.waymotorworks.com/tsw-bdm-brake-kit.html
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What brakes to put on the car depends on your intended use of the car.
If you never had brake fade and do not wear through rotors/pads too quick with your stock brakes, maybe you just need good stock size rotors and better pads. For example maybe the Zimmerman/EBC package at WMW for $500 that includes front and rear rotors/pads plus SS lines:
http://www.waymotorworks.com/wmw-ebc...0-r53-r56.html
If you need a little more heat dissipation than you can upgrade to the JCW brakes at WMW for $700 plus $100-$150 for rear rotors and plus $100 for SS lines. But that gets you to $900 compared to $500 for stock size. Also, the JCW front calipers are very heavy if that matters to you.
If you plan to do track days with the car, I would suggest upgrading to the TSW or Wilwood big brake kits (BBK). They cost more but pads and rotors will last longer than stock sizes because the BBKs dissipate heat better. The BBKs are usually lighter than stock even though much larger. Remember that the stopping distance will not be any better with a BBK but the stopping distance will be consistant after repeated stops (do not heat up and fade).
If you never had brake fade and do not wear through rotors/pads too quick with your stock brakes, maybe you just need good stock size rotors and better pads. For example maybe the Zimmerman/EBC package at WMW for $500 that includes front and rear rotors/pads plus SS lines:
http://www.waymotorworks.com/wmw-ebc...0-r53-r56.html
If you need a little more heat dissipation than you can upgrade to the JCW brakes at WMW for $700 plus $100-$150 for rear rotors and plus $100 for SS lines. But that gets you to $900 compared to $500 for stock size. Also, the JCW front calipers are very heavy if that matters to you.
If you plan to do track days with the car, I would suggest upgrading to the TSW or Wilwood big brake kits (BBK). They cost more but pads and rotors will last longer than stock sizes because the BBKs dissipate heat better. The BBKs are usually lighter than stock even though much larger. Remember that the stopping distance will not be any better with a BBK but the stopping distance will be consistant after repeated stops (do not heat up and fade).
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I really do not like Hawk HPS pads. I have not run EBC.
I'm currently running on Stoptech street performance pads on stock rotors, replacing with Centric blank rotors on my R53. I'm happy with it. The stock pads IMO were pretty good, they just dusted like crazy. I think I'd only add stainless steel lines to my current set-up for street use, but the JCW's are tempting.
- Andrew
I'm currently running on Stoptech street performance pads on stock rotors, replacing with Centric blank rotors on my R53. I'm happy with it. The stock pads IMO were pretty good, they just dusted like crazy. I think I'd only add stainless steel lines to my current set-up for street use, but the JCW's are tempting.
- Andrew
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As for SS lines they are a good investment, but not necessary.
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You can do it for under a grand.
Three options:
1. A DP6 caliper kit on the later R56 (294mm), former R53 JCW rotors- you supply rotors of choice. $659
2. A DP6 caliper kit on the R56 JCW rotor (320mm)- you supply the rotors of choice. $659
3. A full 12.2 Wilwood kit with all the bells and whistles. $859
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