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Old 04-16-2010, 05:59 PM
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235/40/17 tires with 8" wheels?

I have heard that 235/40/17 tires will fit on an r56 without rubbing. I would like to run this size tire with a 1.5 - 2" drop. I have a few questions for anyone that has done this.
  • Were you able to accomplish this without any rubbing?
  • What wheel width and offset did you use?
  • If you had rubbing what could be done to eliminate it?
I am having some wheels made and I am trying to find the optimal width and offset to accomplish this without rubbing. If I have to do a bit of "clearancing" here and there, that's OK. I don't want to but I could go to a 225 tire if absolutely necessary.

Your input is appreciated...
 
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Check out Mach V Dan's car. I'm not sure if he had 8's, but I know for sure 7.5 et 45 and had minimal if any rubbing with his springs. On 8's prolly between 40 and 45 should fit just fine.
 
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Old 04-17-2010, 04:56 PM
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That's right. These are 7.5" +45 offset.

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The tires are 235/40R17. It doesn't rub. Note that our car is only lowered 1.25" or so. Not 2". But you can see from the track photo that even at pretty serious compression, it wasn't contacting anything.

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God I wish the R53 could do that. So jealous.
 
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Originally Posted by Mach V Dan
That's right. These are 7.5" +45 offset.

It doesn't rub. Note that our car is only lowered 1.25" or so. Not 2". But you can see from the track photo that even at pretty serious compression, it wasn't contacting anything.

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How much room do you have on the inside?

Have you ever checked the clearance with the suspension at full compression?

Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by dortoh
How much room do you have on the inside?
Not much! Tire clearance to the front strut is minimal.

Have you ever checked the clearance with the suspension at full compression?
No. I don't know an easy way to do that. Fill the car with 1500 pounds of stuff while it's on the scissors lift? Put the wheels and tires on the car with no springs on it?

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Old 04-17-2010, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mach V Dan
Put the wheels and tires on the car with no springs on it?

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That's how I do it on my racecar. Put the car on stands remove the spring and raise the suspension by hand or with a jack. If you want to simulate the spring to check clearance there, while it's at full compression take a measurement and cut a piece of pvc tubing of whatever works and put that in place of the spring.
 
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I leave the springs on and place a jack under the tire in question. I then raise pretty much the entire car on the jack. This will not completely bottom out the suspension, but I find that on the track your suspension will not compress this much. I currently have 235/40/17's on 7.5 37et wheels. They stick out in the rear a little and I had to roll the fenders ever so slightly.

I have an R56 that is lowered pretty heavily on KW V2's. I could live with a larger offset in the rear, but the front's are pretty close to the springs (maybe less than 5mm's). I also did not want to have different offset wheels in the front from the rear.
 

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any pics btw?

ive got the same wheel specs and was curious. on 205s now lol
 
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Originally Posted by iwashmycar
any pics btw?

ive got the same wheel specs and was curious. on 205s now lol

Sorry, I don't. I just ran them at the track. I can tell you that I was running Nitto NT01's, so you might start from those sizes as a basis. As I am sure you know, there is a pretty large discrepancy between different sizes from different manufacturers. If you are running Hoosier 205's, they are pretty big for instance.

If you happen to be around the Dallas area, I would be more than happy to let you try them on.
 
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Originally Posted by btwdriver
I leave the springs on and place a jack under the tire in question. I then raise pretty much the entire car on the jack. This will not completely bottom out the suspension, but I find that on the track your suspension will not compress this much. I currently have 235/40/17's on 7.5 37et wheels. They stick out in the rear a little and I had to roll the fenders ever so slightly.

I have an R56 that is lowered pretty heavily on KW V2's. I could live with a larger offset in the rear, but the front's are pretty close to the springs (maybe less than 5mm's). I also did not want to have different offset wheels in the front from the rear.

Sweet, I just ordered 235/40/17s mounted on 7.5 +37s. I'm running the NM springs. Thanks for posting up your specs. I'm pretty confident they'll fit without rubbing.
I ordered Dunlop direzza's with it btw. I'll post up pics when i get them in and installed. Could take a little while though with this european ash cloud craziness.
 
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Nice should fit.. says theyre a little wider than btw's setup, but not hardly much...They do say Nittos run small.

Nitto NT01
24.40 HEIGHT 9.49 WIDTH 851 REVS PER MILE

Direzza
24.5 HT 9.6 WD 851 Revs

POST PICS whenever you can
 
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I am due to be at the track next on May 15-16th. I will take some pics then. Also, the Nitto's might be "small" compared to other tires... but when you have them on the car, they look HUGE. I think you are going to find out quickly just how tight things become when you try and squeeze these tires in there.

OK.. I found a picture that is not super great, but you can kinda see the rear tire over my shoulder.

 
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Originally Posted by J_'09s
Sweet, I just ordered 235/40/17s mounted on 7.5 +37s. I'm running the NM springs. Thanks for posting up your specs. I'm pretty confident they'll fit without rubbing.
I ordered Dunlop direzza's with it btw. I'll post up pics when i get them in and installed. Could take a little while though with this european ash cloud craziness.
Did you get Dunlop Star Specs??
If yes, please post pics of Dunlop Star Specs 235/40-17 mounted
 
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Originally Posted by btwdriver
I am due to be at the track next on May 15-16th. I will take some pics then. Also, the Nitto's might be "small" compared to other tires... but when you have them on the car, they look HUGE. I think you are going to find out quickly just how tight things become when you try and squeeze these tires in there.

OK.. I found a picture that is not super great, but you can kinda see the rear tire over my shoulder.
they look good. i was going to just have J '09 post some up, but I do see what you mean on the rear...

little rubbing never hurt anyone
 
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Originally Posted by howsoonisnow1985
Did you get Dunlop Star Specs??
If yes, please post pics of Dunlop Star Specs 235/40-17 mounted
Yes sir! Those are the tires.

They came in today too!!! Indiana to Spain in 4 working days!! Thats smoking fast! I don't have them on me though. They are locked away in the mail room on base.

I wasnt able to get them today bc i lost a darned control arm bolt yesterday! Lost it in a round about and had a massive drift. there was ridiculous negative camber I'm having to have a spare bolt and nut shipped to Spain. That and i'm waiting on the m14-m12 studs to come in.

I've acquired a loaner car from a friend. I'll be picking up the wheels/tires tomorrow. I dont know when they'll be mounted unfortunately.

I'll post pictures of the combo once i bring them home tomorrow.
 
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Originally Posted by J_'09s
Yes sir! Those are the tires.

They came in today too!!! Indiana to Spain in 4 working days!! Thats smoking fast! I don't have them on me though. They are locked away in the mail room on base.

I wasnt able to get them today bc i lost a darned control arm bolt yesterday! Lost it in a round about and had a massive drift. there was ridiculous negative camber I'm having to have a spare bolt and nut shipped to Spain. That and i'm waiting on the m14-m12 studs to come in.

I've acquired a loaner car from a friend. I'll be picking up the wheels/tires tomorrow. I dont know when they'll be mounted unfortunately.

I'll post pictures of the combo once i bring them home tomorrow.
Cool thanks wow in Spain. Thought they were on, sorry.
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I am due to be at the track next on May 15-16th. I will take some pics then. Also, the Nitto's might be "small" compared to other tires... but when you have them on the car, they look HUGE. I think you are going to find out quickly just how tight things become when you try and squeeze these tires in there.

OK.. I found a picture that is not super great, but you can kinda see the rear tire over my shoulder.

That looks perfect!
What are your wheel specs and rear camber?
Spacers?
 

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My wheel specs are above... 17x7.5 et37. I run -2.1 camber in the front and -1.5 in the rear, zero toe all the way around.

No spacers.
 

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I was in a rush when i took these pics. They will be mounted later on this week.
 
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niiiice J. those look absolutely siiiick! Going to be awesome im sure!
 
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niiiice J. those look absolutely siiiick! Going to be awesome im sure!
Thanks dude. i can't wait to get them on the car. i hope those stud adapters are on their way here!
 
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Originally Posted by J_'09s

I was in a rush when i took these pics. They will be mounted later on this week.
These look like sweet sticky, icky meats that can hold the roadlike nothing.
Sick Volks, too. Can't wait for pics!
 
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Thanks, I should have the car back together today. Pics to come later today most likely.
 
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FINALLY! After these wheels staring at me for almost a week. I finally have them installed and couldn't be happier. To reiterate, these are Volk Te37 +37 17x7.5 tires are dunlop michelin star spec z1 235/40r17. Hope you enjoy!





 
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sonofabish those look hot. well done
 


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