Suspension turn in help?
turn in help?
I really like the way my car is handling but it could be a little better. It is almost dead neutral with a slight understeer. My rear bar is in the middle and I have a front bar as well...set softest. The PSS9s are set at 5 in the rear and 3 in front. I know if i tighten the rear bar that will induce oversteer but I am concerned too much. I drive this car almost everyday....the lexus stays at home.....and at highway speed around 285 I don't want the car to be twitchy. I'm thinking loosen the front PSS9s and tighten down therear but I don't know. I was going to experiment over the weekend but I thought I would get some input from you all... I just want a little more.....I also don't want to wear out tires too fast.......any suggestions
Alignment changes make a big difference. I'm running 1/8" toe out in front and 0 toe in back. My Mini turns like you wouldn't beleve but the trade-off is that you have to pay more attention when driving. Sneeze on the highway and you can end up 3 lanes over (an exageration). Think of it as walking around on your toes all the time.
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Do you have stock camber in the front? Try more aggressive set up like -2.5 front camber. My setup is very similar to your setup, see my signature.
My alignment setup is -2.75 front camber, -1.75 rear camber, 0 toes front and rear, front bar at soft, rear at mid. My car turn in real good at both high and low speed corners. However, my car feel a little hairy mid highspeed corner
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Cheers
Do you have stock camber in the front? Try more aggressive set up like -2.5 front camber. My setup is very similar to your setup, see my signature.
My alignment setup is -2.75 front camber, -1.75 rear camber, 0 toes front and rear, front bar at soft, rear at mid. My car turn in real good at both high and low speed corners. However, my car feel a little hairy mid highspeed corner
.Cheers
I would just soften the front dampers a tad and see where it takes you.
but are those Bils both bound and rebound adjustable? If only rebound
it won't do as much.
but I think you're going to end up changing the swaybar setting.
but are those Bils both bound and rebound adjustable? If only rebound
it won't do as much.
but I think you're going to end up changing the swaybar setting.
This is an area where one man's "turn-in" is another's "How did I get in this lane?"
FWIW - I run negative 2.0 in front with 0 toe, and negative 1.6 in back, with 1/16 toe-in. Used it for street and auto-x for over 20,000 miles. 15 inch 205/50-15 for street, 225/45-15 for auto-x.
H-Sport Comp. rear bar, mid position. Front Koni yellows set to either street or auto-x as needed. Rear Konis left on middle setting.
Tires wear nicely on the street, yet it will almost change lanes if you just think about it....
FWIW - I run negative 2.0 in front with 0 toe, and negative 1.6 in back, with 1/16 toe-in. Used it for street and auto-x for over 20,000 miles. 15 inch 205/50-15 for street, 225/45-15 for auto-x.
H-Sport Comp. rear bar, mid position. Front Koni yellows set to either street or auto-x as needed. Rear Konis left on middle setting.
Tires wear nicely on the street, yet it will almost change lanes if you just think about it....
Nice street geometry.
Originally Posted by hornguys
This is an area where one man's "turn-in" is another's "How did I get in this lane?"
FWIW - I run negative 2.0 in front with 0 toe, and negative 1.6 in back, with 1/16 toe-in. Used it for street and auto-x for over 20,000 miles. 15 inch 205/50-15 for street, 225/45-15 for auto-x.
H-Sport Comp. rear bar, mid position. Front Koni yellows set to either street or auto-x as needed. Rear Konis left on middle setting.
Tires wear nicely on the street, yet it will almost change lanes if you just think about it....
FWIW - I run negative 2.0 in front with 0 toe, and negative 1.6 in back, with 1/16 toe-in. Used it for street and auto-x for over 20,000 miles. 15 inch 205/50-15 for street, 225/45-15 for auto-x.
H-Sport Comp. rear bar, mid position. Front Koni yellows set to either street or auto-x as needed. Rear Konis left on middle setting.
Tires wear nicely on the street, yet it will almost change lanes if you just think about it....
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I second that - nice street geometry. This is what I'm currently running, however I have the h-sport front bar on soft and I want to try the rear on full stiff to balance it out. Car still rolls a bit too much in the rear.
Originally Posted by hornguys
This is an area where one man's "turn-in" is another's "How did I get in this lane?"
FWIW - I run negative 2.0 in front with 0 toe, and negative 1.6 in back, with 1/16 toe-in. Used it for street and auto-x for over 20,000 miles. 15 inch 205/50-15 for street, 225/45-15 for auto-x.
H-Sport Comp. rear bar, mid position. Front Koni yellows set to either street or auto-x as needed. Rear Konis left on middle setting.
Tires wear nicely on the street, yet it will almost change lanes if you just think about it....
FWIW - I run negative 2.0 in front with 0 toe, and negative 1.6 in back, with 1/16 toe-in. Used it for street and auto-x for over 20,000 miles. 15 inch 205/50-15 for street, 225/45-15 for auto-x.
H-Sport Comp. rear bar, mid position. Front Koni yellows set to either street or auto-x as needed. Rear Konis left on middle setting.
Tires wear nicely on the street, yet it will almost change lanes if you just think about it....
Originally Posted by MSFITOY
I didn't think them big ole nuts on the arms are capable of adjustment tolerances of 1/16"

The alignment shop does some pretty trick cars, including competition cars.
And for all I know, it could be that the computer printout was optimistic, but I've used them with great success and so have folks I've sent there.
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