Suspension WHOAH! Fantastic new suspension additions!
WHOAH! Fantastic new suspension additions!
So I went to Mini Corsa and had him install the Hotchkis 19mm rear sway bar and Madness polyurethane front control arm bushings.
Now THIS is how a Clubman S should feel! Tight and direct steering, barely any leaning in turns, and now I know why good drivers don't like understeer -- with the rear sway bar in the middle setting, oversteer is now more present and is positively delicious. I'm LOVING these additions. With the Koni FSDs and these two new items, I feel like my MINI is now ready to take on anyone, handling-wise.
EDIT: Torque steer is lessened a tiny bit, though it's still there of course. Bump steer has not been helped at all. These two things are just what one has to accept in a MINI.
Just thought I'd share for those who might be on the fence with either or both of these things.
Now THIS is how a Clubman S should feel! Tight and direct steering, barely any leaning in turns, and now I know why good drivers don't like understeer -- with the rear sway bar in the middle setting, oversteer is now more present and is positively delicious. I'm LOVING these additions. With the Koni FSDs and these two new items, I feel like my MINI is now ready to take on anyone, handling-wise.
EDIT: Torque steer is lessened a tiny bit, though it's still there of course. Bump steer has not been helped at all. These two things are just what one has to accept in a MINI.
Just thought I'd share for those who might be on the fence with either or both of these things.
Last edited by Headlands; Mar 17, 2010 at 11:27 PM.
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Hehe I'm joking, powerflex is an awesome company. I was just teasing Mr. Hunt
maybe by april 
Haha, you could spend almost 100 grand on mods for your MINI before buying that boat.
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So I went to Mini Corsa and had him install the Hotchkis 19mm rear sway bar and Madness polyurethane front control arm bushings.
Now THIS is how a Clubman S should feel! Tight and direct steering, barely any leaning in turns, and now I know why good drivers don't like understeer -- with the rear sway bar in the middle setting, oversteer is now more present and is positively delicious. I'm LOVING these additions. With the Koni FSDs and these two new items, I feel like my MINI is now ready to take on anyone, handling-wise.
Torque steer and bump steer are both lessened, though they are still there of course. These two things are just what one has to accept in a MINI, though now they're not quite as bad as they were before these new installs.
Just thought I'd share for those who might be on the fence with either or both of these things.
Now THIS is how a Clubman S should feel! Tight and direct steering, barely any leaning in turns, and now I know why good drivers don't like understeer -- with the rear sway bar in the middle setting, oversteer is now more present and is positively delicious. I'm LOVING these additions. With the Koni FSDs and these two new items, I feel like my MINI is now ready to take on anyone, handling-wise.
Torque steer and bump steer are both lessened, though they are still there of course. These two things are just what one has to accept in a MINI, though now they're not quite as bad as they were before these new installs.
Just thought I'd share for those who might be on the fence with either or both of these things.
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as soon as the Turbo S comes out I will send the mini across the pond to keep the GT3 company.
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I was hoping for better control of MINI bump steer, but unfortunately that didn't happen beyond a very subtle difference. I guess MINIs are just not very well designed as far as that's concerned.
Last edited by Headlands; Mar 17, 2010 at 02:27 PM.
This is going off topic a bit.
When the Panamera came out, I too hated it. But at the SF Auto Show, I got to spend a bunch of time in the car. It's really, really well done. You'd be shocked at how much rear space is in the car. No, it's not a 911 or a Cayman, but for what it is, it's shockingly good.
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I had a few people tell me that bump steer would be noticeably reduced with these bushings, but I found that to not really be case (again, just a very subtle difference). Most people were not speaking very highly of the Alta PSRS bushings, in comparison to the polyurethane ones, when I asked.
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I had a few people tell me that bump steer would be noticeably reduced with these bushings, but I found that to not really be case (again, just a very subtle difference). Most people were not speaking very highly of the Alta PSRS bushings, in comparison to the polyurethane ones, when I asked.
I erased the other messages I had, but this one was still in my box, from a fellow member here:
"Stay away from the problematic Alta PSRS as the poly bushings do the same job without the constant rattles and harshness of the Alta crap. The poly bushings were not available when I had the PSRS installed and I sure wish they were around then. I consider the Altas a liability now."
"Stay away from the problematic Alta PSRS as the poly bushings do the same job without the constant rattles and harshness of the Alta crap. The poly bushings were not available when I had the PSRS installed and I sure wish they were around then. I consider the Altas a liability now."
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I erased the other messages I had, but this one was still in my box, from a fellow member here:
"Stay away from the problematic Alta PSRS as the poly bushings do the same job without the constant rattles and harshness of the Alta crap. The poly bushings were not available when I had the PSRS installed and I sure wish they were around then. I consider the Altas a liability now."
"Stay away from the problematic Alta PSRS as the poly bushings do the same job without the constant rattles and harshness of the Alta crap. The poly bushings were not available when I had the PSRS installed and I sure wish they were around then. I consider the Altas a liability now."
Thanks for your input though, I appreciate it. My PSRS are going in tomorrow, I hope my experience will be better. (I don't have access to a welder unfortunately, so I won't be able to tack weld the sleeve to the control arm, which I've heard helps things)
Perhaps these members installed/had them installed improperly? I dunno. What I do know is that the Madness poly bushings are truly fantastic on my car and don't require any welding to install. I can't compare personally since I've never used the PSRS bushings myself.
When the Panamera came out, I too hated it. But at the SF Auto Show, I got to spend a bunch of time in the car. It's really, really well done. You'd be shocked at how much rear space is in the car. No, it's not a 911 or a Cayman, but for what it is, it's shockingly good.
Matt
Matt
And, yeah, swaybar + bushings are goodness. Just need camber plates for ultra-goodness.
