The spring rate he is quoting is relatively Mild.. I Daily Drive with a much higher rate as it is - and it is already a better ride than stock!

I wouldn't shy away from them at the price he is offering

 

puhleeeeez, 4.5-5?! i have 8/7 which are way smoother than the bc 8/6's were. don't miss out on this boyz, you'll be sorry

 

Exactly.. I am at 8/7 and doing just fine - going 10/8 here with the help of this thread.

 

I just don't want to make lowering springs with the Swift name be just for the cool looks of being lowered, if thats the case any other lowering springs will do. Im doing this for the performance oriented drivers, that want nothing but the best for their cars.

These springs will still be very streetable. They will be made with streetability in mind, but the option to take it to the track with a competitive feel to it.

 

Yea I was actually hoping the rates would be higher...

Excellent price, though, for the quality.

What are the stock spring rates? What are the rates of, say, TSW's springs?

mb

 

I'm in....let me know when the buying begins.......I'll have some almost brand new H&R's available for sale after I get em.......

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Search is my friend!

Ok, so these Swift springs are linear (yes?) and will be 4-5kg. Do we know if this rate plays well with a particular shock/strut? Will the coil be the same diameter as stock? I'd love for the fronts to be thinner to stop the damned creaking when I turn.

I'll be able to make a decision when we have final prices, rates and information on how they'd work with specific shocks for track use.

Found this on the subaru forums to help people with the kg-lb conversion if needed:

"Here's the math (1kg/mm)*(25.4mm/1in)*(2.2lb/1kg) => 1 kg/mm = 55.88 lb/in

For quick reference:
4k = 224 lb/in
5k = 279 lb/in
6k = 335 lb/in
7k = 391 lb/in
8k = 447 lb/in
9k = 503 lb/in
10k = 559 lb/in"

So would 24 lb/in over the TSW really make a difference? I have NO idea. Anyone? Will these be the same rates front and rear?

mb

 

I would hope they are doing a firmer in the rear............

I just noticed that we are under the 1st gen MINI....section....does that mean I am SOL for the 2nd gen R56?

 

You want firmer up front for our particular drivetrain layout and weight bias/wheel base length etc. etc.

 

i too thought the spring rate would be firmer

4-5k is not that track orientated but it sounds like a good compromise

I'm assuming 5kg front and 4kg rear?

 

It's not all about being as stiff as possible. I have to keep in mind the life of the OEM shock as well. These are as stiff as they can be without the "need" of getting performance shocks. Or else it would defeat the purpose of a cheap alternative for track like suspension. If one were to purchase lowering springs and performance shocks, it would be as much as just getting cheaper megan or BC brand coilovers.

But it's up to you guys. let me know what you think. I can do the math and figure out other rates.

 

I'd consider them more seriously if they'd mate up better to an aftermarket shock as I'm in the market for both and not just a spring. I'd want it to fit together nicely, so if I can do all of that for under a grand, then I will. If not, then I'll just bite the bullet and get a set of CO's.

And thank you for being so forthright in this thread (ninjlao) - people like me need to be taught stuff like the fact that if springs are too stiff they'll kill the stock shocks...

mb

 

maybe actual road testing is the best way to test it?

 

While I'm not looking for springs, I just wanted to make a comment or share an opinion.

Forget about pairing to stock shocks. Most of the stock shocks are pretty tired by 40k miles and pretty much all of the R50 and R53 is already up there in terms of mileage. The stock shocks are OK for street driving but for track driving the Konis and Bilsteins perform so much better.

Its up to you what usage you want to design these springs for. There are already so many options on the market.

 

decisions decisions........
Im going to discuss this with Swift tonight. And I will update you guys tonight.

 

Ask them about some sway-bars too ;-)

 

I have to say i'm pretty excited for these springs...looking forward to this July possibly?

 

Speaking of shocks, will the Swift coils be compatible with Koni FSD's?

 

Yes they will work on the FSD. anything that uses the stock springs will work.

I talked to them, and we decided that when we go through with this group buy, that they are going to make several sets with different spring rates and have a professional driver test out all the different rates and have him choose out the rates with the most amount of control and feel to them. I decided that, that will be the best setup. So the spring rates will range from 4.5-7kg, I will let the driver decide. Let me know what you guys think.

 

ninjlao. I'm very interested in this group buy. Let me know when the final spring rate has been chosen and you are ready to take orders.

Thanks

 

ninjlao - received my springs today! Big thank you for you help. (These are for coilovers, not the lowering springs for the group buy)

Cheers,
M3NTAL

 

No problem, let me know how you like em!

 

I just got a birthday gift of ~$200 to spend on my MINI. I found this thread as I am looking for some lowering springs. I do want to lower for looks, but I want performance. These sound like they fit the bill as long as they can go on stock 2005 non-s model.

So put me on the list if that is doable.

 

You got mail

 

Who's got mail?

Also any progress and/or an anticipated date on the lowering springs?