Suspension Swift Springs dynoed
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Hey ninjlao I dont know if you remember me but I bought a set of these springs from you. White Mini gold TE knockoffs.
I was wondering if you still sold Swift springs?
I remember getting them from you for an extremely good price. Just wondering if you still had the connection because I've been hunting for prices and if I still remember correctly your prices are way cheaper. It's exactly like you say, I can't find it for cheaper than 350.
I was wondering if you still sold Swift springs?
I remember getting them from you for an extremely good price. Just wondering if you still had the connection because I've been hunting for prices and if I still remember correctly your prices are way cheaper. It's exactly like you say, I can't find it for cheaper than 350.
I'm willing to start a group buy to get them to make lowering spring. Only worry is this lovely economy we have today and getting 20 people to pony up some cash might be hard.
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Hey ninjlao I dont know if you remember me but I bought a set of these springs from you. White Mini gold TE knockoffs.
I was wondering if you still sold Swift springs?
I remember getting them from you for an extremely good price. Just wondering if you still had the connection because I've been hunting for prices and if I still remember correctly your prices are way cheaper. It's exactly like you say, I can't find it for cheaper than 350.
I was wondering if you still sold Swift springs?
I remember getting them from you for an extremely good price. Just wondering if you still had the connection because I've been hunting for prices and if I still remember correctly your prices are way cheaper. It's exactly like you say, I can't find it for cheaper than 350.
Im totally willing to work with you for the group buy. I will do what I can. I might even be able to cut it down to 10 sets. Ill find out tomorrow.
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Please remember that H&R have had lots of problems with their springs - this is first hand experience. One kit I installed had only one working coil, that's it. The damper had to be shaved to fit in the knuckle and the brke hose bung was actually the stop for the damper. I wrote about this a while back...H&R are aware of this and may have fixed the problem...I received a full refund.
In addition, the Mini's stock springs may be linear, but since this stock set up - and H&R by the way - are bumpstop active kits, they work progressively since the multicellular jounce dampers - the bumpstops - are progressive and in contact with the damper from just off rest.
ninjlao, you may be aware that I worked with Megan for almost a year, performing R&D for them...there were several shortcomings and I finally gave up. I still like the design concept shared by Megan and CROSS, but as far as Megan was concerned, the materials were not very durable...or consistent.
In addition, the Mini's stock springs may be linear, but since this stock set up - and H&R by the way - are bumpstop active kits, they work progressively since the multicellular jounce dampers - the bumpstops - are progressive and in contact with the damper from just off rest.
ninjlao, you may be aware that I worked with Megan for almost a year, performing R&D for them...there were several shortcomings and I finally gave up. I still like the design concept shared by Megan and CROSS, but as far as Megan was concerned, the materials were not very durable...or consistent.
. When my mini hits 200K miles i may take the car and overhaul it...then we can talk...
Please remember that H&R have had lots of problems with their springs - this is first hand experience. One kit I installed had only one working coil, that's it. The damper had to be shaved to fit in the knuckle and the brke hose bung was actually the stop for the damper. I wrote about this a while back...H&R are aware of this and may have fixed the problem...I received a full refund.
In addition, the Mini's stock springs may be linear, but since this stock set up - and H&R by the way - are bumpstop active kits, they work progressively since the multicellular jounce dampers - the bumpstops - are progressive and in contact with the damper from just off rest.
ninjlao, you may be aware that I worked with Megan for almost a year, performing R&D for them...there were several shortcomings and I finally gave up. I still like the design concept shared by Megan and CROSS, but as far as Megan was concerned, the materials were not very durable...or consistent.
In addition, the Mini's stock springs may be linear, but since this stock set up - and H&R by the way - are bumpstop active kits, they work progressively since the multicellular jounce dampers - the bumpstops - are progressive and in contact with the damper from just off rest.
ninjlao, you may be aware that I worked with Megan for almost a year, performing R&D for them...there were several shortcomings and I finally gave up. I still like the design concept shared by Megan and CROSS, but as far as Megan was concerned, the materials were not very durable...or consistent.
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No, no, no! I was never employeed by Megan...when I first tried these out I was at Lime Rock trying to hold off a very well driven M5 - previous model. At first I thought I was over-driving the car because it would take a set as it entered the turn and then instantly slide at some point thereafter. After the second session I pulled one corner apart and noticed that the very large, hard rubber bumpstop, was severley distorted.
When I called Megan, they told me I was performing RD for them...wish I knew up front. They wanted feedback since I was driving about 3,000 - 3,500 miles per month on public roads and had roughly 10 track events set up for that summer. I received parts thereafter for free or at cost when they broke.
Dampers are the same for either kit, sort of a no, no as you know. The idea that damping was adjustable was key to thinking these could be adapted to different spring rates. I used 469# up front and 335# in the rear if this helps...and for the most part the damper adjustment was set at 10 clicks less from full hard.
The cylinders leaked way too often and they performed noticably different when hot - became sloppy.
I never dynoed the Megans, so I have no idea if the damper force actually increased as the damper adjustment was tighened up or if these adjustment simply altered the damping curve...or both.
I will offer this observation, the pillow ball/camber plate was indestructable! I hit some huge pot holes many times and these units remained tight as hell while I had them...I often thought that someone ought to design a similar setup for stock/inverted struts. The increse in grainyness felt thru the steering was a plus to my way of thinking and the pillow ball is a better solution to a strut bearing that flexes.
I hope this helps ninjlao?
...by the way, I held off the M5 until turn two on the last lap...I was pushing too hard and thought I might actually hurt myself...this was before finding the bumpstop issue...excuses, excuses!
When I called Megan, they told me I was performing RD for them...wish I knew up front. They wanted feedback since I was driving about 3,000 - 3,500 miles per month on public roads and had roughly 10 track events set up for that summer. I received parts thereafter for free or at cost when they broke.
Dampers are the same for either kit, sort of a no, no as you know. The idea that damping was adjustable was key to thinking these could be adapted to different spring rates. I used 469# up front and 335# in the rear if this helps...and for the most part the damper adjustment was set at 10 clicks less from full hard.
The cylinders leaked way too often and they performed noticably different when hot - became sloppy.
I never dynoed the Megans, so I have no idea if the damper force actually increased as the damper adjustment was tighened up or if these adjustment simply altered the damping curve...or both.
I will offer this observation, the pillow ball/camber plate was indestructable! I hit some huge pot holes many times and these units remained tight as hell while I had them...I often thought that someone ought to design a similar setup for stock/inverted struts. The increse in grainyness felt thru the steering was a plus to my way of thinking and the pillow ball is a better solution to a strut bearing that flexes.
I hope this helps ninjlao?
...by the way, I held off the M5 until turn two on the last lap...I was pushing too hard and thought I might actually hurt myself...this was before finding the bumpstop issue...excuses, excuses!
Last edited by meb; Nov 12, 2008 at 04:54 AM.
Sorry guys.I've talked to ninjlao and he has talked to his friends at Swift who have agreed to do a group buy on 10 sets min of their lowering springs.
I was supposed to start a thread over a week ago and have just been to busy. I will get something started ASAP to get this going.
Look for the group buy thread soon.
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The spring rates are determined by Swift. I have to send them the OEM R53 springs, and they make about 10-20 sets with various spring rates. After that, they test them on Tsukuba circuit with Keiichi Tsuchiya, and another driver that races JGTC named Kikuchi driving the test car. Same procedure for the Swift Swaybars.
Last edited by ninjlao; Mar 8, 2009 at 04:20 AM.
To fit the BC Coilovers you'd need springs that utilize a 65mm inner diameter. BC Coilovers actually use a 62mm inner diameter, but the 3mm difference won't endanger you.
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there are different lengths available for springs with a 65mm diameter. what's the length of the spring for the Mini's BC coilovers? thanks a bunch!
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.It looked like there would be an easy 10 people before. We need 20 though...
I think the rears were 180mm and the fronts were 150mm? I don't quite remember I'd have to double check again.