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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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Need to change the title of the thread to attract more interest...
 
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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What struts do all of you use? Would the swift spring work with OEM struts?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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I would think that most here will be putting these Swift springs or rather lowering springs on OEM struts/shocks. Some do have aftermarket like Koni, etc.

So yes, it will work with OEM struts.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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Count me in for #9 if the springs lower me ~ 1", and work with stock struts.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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I'm interested IF:

- these are the track-oriented springs
- they work with a different strut (koni yellow)
- the price for the springs and my new struts doesn't = what I could pay for coilovers.

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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 02:14 PM
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any updates?
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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#10 if they drop ~1" and work out affordable in sterlings
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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#11 w/ 3/4" drop would be perfect!
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 10:42 AM
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#12 i'd be willing to take 2 sets if like I said before it works out ok in sterlings

How does everyone feel about a 20mm drop then?

half way between works springs and most other lowering springs
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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I would like ~1".
 
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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Dang.. I was under the impression that the Cross/JIC setup was the Bees Knees... That is why I went "all-in" with them... Now you have me thinking about the swift springs.

My current daily driving comfort is better than stock, but a little ***/bouncy for my tastes
 
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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The Swift springs made the Cross coils even better
 
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Old May 6, 2009 | 09:22 AM
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I''d be interested if they drop about 1". Any other updates about spring rates, prices, date, etc?
 
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Old May 7, 2009 | 01:20 PM
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I've been following this thread since way back when......what's the latest on this? May I contact you directly with questions? Thanks.
 
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Old May 7, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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I really only need 2 more people if the list still stands true. But then again its been such a long time Im sure that some people on the list got some other form of lowering springs so I'm going to have to check in with each person.

I just got off the phone with swift and here are pretty much the conditions

I'm going to need to get payment for the springs up front from the first 15 people that wants a set. But at the same time the first 15 people will get a drastic discount. These springs will end up retailing for 400 dollars, The first 15 sets will be around 200-250 per set, they will get back to me, and confirm the exact price. After everyone sends payment it will take about a month (4-6 weeks) and they will be in.

As for the specs of the springs, they are going to drop about an inch all around and the spring rates will be made more track oriented than most other lowering springs. I decided if I'm going to make lowering springs why try to compete with all the other lowering springs that are out, instead make a more affordable option to going to the race track.


Some of you guys are probably going to shy away from this because of the conditions but its the best I can do. I'm not going to make anything out of this nor do I need this because I run coilovers on my car. Just trying to help out the community thats all.

Anyways for questions or anything you can go ahead and pm me directly.

thanks
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Old May 7, 2009 | 01:58 PM
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what rates are we talking?
 
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Old May 7, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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We do not have the exact rates, but Im thinking it will be around 4-5.5kg. They are not going to be coilover stiff. hehe. but they are going to bring the most the stock shocks can take.
 
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Old May 7, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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Ninjlao - I have not heard back from you on my last PM - Whenever you get a free moment, please respond and we can get the ball rolling

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Old May 7, 2009 | 11:19 PM
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Ninjlao - I have not heard back from you on my last PM - Whenever you get a free moment, please respond and we can get the ball rolling

Cheers
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Check your PM.

By the way Mental brought up a point that I wanted to share with the community.


Originally Posted by M3NTAL
One more question - my main concern with the cross setup now is the "bouncy-ness" of them?
Originally Posted by Ninjlao
I don't really understand what you mean by bounciness. If you think it's too bouncy why would you increase the spring rate? Im guessing its not bounciness from it being too stiff. The spring rates that you have decided on, I think is a decent setup.
Another reason why the suspension might be bouncy is because Cross suspension does not come with rear top mounts, so you are still running on the stock rubber bushing that goes in the stock top hats. This could cause the bounciness that you are experiencing. Sounds odd but I have driven on many different setups and I refuse to drive with any coilovers that use the stock tophats.
I found two solutions to this problem:
-buy topmounts for the rear of the car and rigg it onto your Cross (Megan and BC makes them)
-buy the mini-madness polyurethane kit(not as effective because there is still slight flex)http://www.mini-madness.com/index.as...ROD&ProdID=260
I found this out back when I was tracking my 240sx. Every time there is a rubber bushing somewhere in the suspension system, especially in the top mount, it makes the suspension sloppy. I bought lower end coilovers which didnt have pillow upper ball mounts (heim joint in the mount) instead they have a floating rubber bushing in it. They do this to make the suspension feel more streetable because the rubber absorbs all the little bumps on the road. This concept works, but when the rubber rebounds it creates unwanted "bounciness" that cannot be dampened by the shock, which I believe is the feeling some people are trying to describe. When it comes to performance, rubber bushings are very unwanted and to me it feels unstable and uncomfortable.
 
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Old May 7, 2009 | 11:44 PM
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I'm in for some springs as well, but my stock shocks are at 50k already so would it be better to get new shocks as well? If so which shocks would be best to run with the swift lowering springs?
 
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Old May 8, 2009 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Mini_Chan
I'm in for some springs as well, but my stock shocks are at 50k already so would it be better to get new shocks as well? If so which shocks would be best to run with the swift lowering springs?
koni yellows are popular with lowering springs. or bilstein sp's. plus side of the koni's is they are adjustable (rebound) out of the box. bilsteins can be revalved.
 
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Old May 10, 2009 | 12:12 AM
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Any idea if Swift is interested in making a sway bar for the R53?
 
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Old May 10, 2009 | 02:49 AM
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I already talked about that. It's possible but not likely. I need 20 orders of both front and rear, and the price is a bit more than 600 dollars for both. This is the reason why I didn't even bring it up.
 
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Old May 10, 2009 | 08:02 AM
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Well, if the springs are going to be more track oriented, then I would say I am out. Kinda looking for something more practical for daily use, almost no tracking.

Thanks, ninjlao.
 
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Old May 10, 2009 | 08:21 AM
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Unfortunately, I'm out too. As much as I would LOVE to have it track oriented, my MINI is my DD. Needs to be somewhat comfortable on day-to-day driving. After all, I need to keep it comfortable 'enough' for my wife and daughter to enjoy the ride too.
 
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