Ok so lets list them up I will keep count. When ready i will send in the order.

 

One

 

1. Chuckt
2. Destro
5. ninjlao (3sets)

Not too bad almost there kind of...

 

6. Mini_Joe

 

Very interested! Any idea of what the price would be?

7. R53 in SC

 

my initial impressions of swift coilover replacement springs are very positive. first a shout out to ryan for guiding me through the process. i honestly can't believe there is a better handling daily driving mini on the planet! really, you say?

my oem mcs cabrio suspension lasted about a month. i have a street and track set up, but will describe my daily driving set up. i came from a bmw e46 m3, and am a spirited driver. my first change was an h-sport 19mm adjustable rear sway bar. next, dunlop direzza z1 star specs 215/45-17 went on. omp lower strut bar and m7 front strut bar and plates were next. ss brake lines, carbotech bobcats and ate super blue followed. bc coilovers were next, with tsw adj links, helix rear control arms. summer wheels are oz ultraleggera's. alignment set at -2.0 front with 1/32" toe out in the front. -1.5 with zero toe in the rear. so you might think things were tight enough...but i just wasn't satisfied with the ride. sometimes it was harsh, sometimes it was inconsistent, but at the end of the day, i always felt it could be better.

i am happy to say that the ride is noticably much softer, predictable and less jarring now. much smoother transition in and out of turns now...very confidence inspiring. i think the nvh is only slightly louder than stock, but less than the bc springs.

so, if the lowering springs are anything like the coilover replacement springs, i'd go for them in a second! hope that helps anyone who may have been sitting on the fence.

happy trails!

 

Glad to hear the improvement is positive and tangible! I told ya they were worth it! Are the spring rates we talked about spot-on in terms of through-the-corner handling balance? You seem pleased with them in terms of ride quality, which is good too!

Cheers,
Ryan

 

oxtox's post has almost conviced me to go for swift springs when I'll purchase my PSS coilovers, not that I needed to be convinced about their quality but I was wondering if they were worth it on a daily driver, it seems if you get the spring rate right it is!!

oxtox, which spring rate did you go for? Also, does anyone know which ID do the springs which come with the PSS have?

 

spot on bro'
BIG smile driving the long way to work today. very stable/smooth through the turns. no bounce. very predictable. i'm in love......

minidriver85...these springs will make your daily drive more better. i got the coilover replacement springs as i have bc's. my rates were 8 front/7 rear...but i weigh more than you...i mean my cabrio weighs more than your car. swift/ordering info here http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/me...=SWIFT-SPRINGS

 

Wait why would you go to evasive for that.
Ninjlao himself is personal friends with the owner of swift and hes been consistently hooking up the community with great prices. I paid much less than 350 for the coilover springs. Ninjlao also knows how to setup a Mini pretty well and he has sold sets for many different coilovers for the the mini, so he already has the information for the sping length and id. In fact he sold me a set of coilover springs for my friends mini and gave me shorter springs so that we were able to lower the front more. Evasive definately will not be able to help out the mini community like ninjlao will. He has also tested out all kinds of spring rates for the mini, from specs of the tuner minis to what he thinks is a good daily driver setup.

When I bought it from him, I told him what size tire and brand, and what i want to do with the car, for example track setup, autocross, or just daily driving with occasional track. For someone like me that has no clue about suspension setups, ninjlao was extremely helpful and informative.
just my .02

But yes these springs are a day and night difference. Best investment in suspension in my opinion, once you have coilovers that is. (can't wit to see how the lowering springs are going to turn out)

 

absolutely...you misunderstand me bro' nothin' but props for ninjalo

my reason for posting was to encourage folks to jump on the group buy. i did not know ninjalo was a vendor. i posted the evasive link because it has the best display/info and decision making tree of the sites i've seen.

now if y'all are smart you'll jump on this group buy gig while ya can

 

i would have to agree with oxtox with the swift coilover springs and i have to thank ryan also (i asked him for the specs a while ago). these springs are for my megans and i have to say the ride is incredible. they ride very nice around the street and in the sametime the car feels very planted, more flat (i need a bucket seat now), and its predictable even in rough mountain roads. i was expecting for a harsh ride but it was a win win. i'm waiting to get everything settled so i can get to the stance, but the performance gain with this combo is worth spending the extra.

 

When springs "settle" it's another term for spring sag. Swift springs do not "settle" as they do not sag. You can go ahead and set your vehicle to the correct stance, and it will stay that way.


I'm not a vendor, but if someone would like to purchase Swift springs I can definitely get them.

 

Ninjlao, do you know the ID of the springs used on PSS coilovers? If you do, could you provide me a quote for a set of Swift springs for those? As for spring rates, I'd like a firm ride, but not back-killing, lol, as the car is mostly used on public roads. Could you suggest some rates? Thanks for the help!!

 

Swift springs made a noticable improvement for our Cross coilovers as well

 

I really dont know what size the pss9 for mini is. But I have sold a few sets of springs to the porsche owners and they run 70mm inner diameter. I will pm you for spring rates.http://www.turnermotorsport.com/imag...ni_pss9_lg.jpg
but if they look like that then, because they do not have top hats for the fronts you will not be able to run the coilover springs on the front.

 

I don't think they have any for the PSS9s. Those COs use a barrel type spring with the OEM tops and a different size lower perch, not sure what that is though. A while back some NAM user made custom lower perches to go with the H-Sport camber plates using their 2.5"(?) CO tops. That way he could use HQ linear springs, like the Swifts...

 

Thanks, I'll do a research about the ID. About the top hats, would I be able to use those springs with camber plates like these: http://www.txwerks.com/servlet/Detail?no=187 if the ID was 60mm?

 

Hey Ninjlao,
Did you perform similar dyno testing on BC coilover springs? Maybe I missed it in all of the posts.

 

Anyone know if Swift springs will fit Koni coilovers?

 

Any guess on the cost or the drop of the purposed swift spring?

Are we going for low or fast?

I assume fast but i wanted to make sure

-Jonathan

 

I haven't tested the BC springs because I assumed they are the same as the Megan's. BC (Bor-Chuan) is the manufacturer for Megan's. Not to be mistaken for Buddyclub.


Im looking at pictures and it seems as though they reuse the stock tophats. And if yours does then no you would not be able to run swift coilover springs without modifications, but I can say that I have sold a set of coilover springs to a mini owner with Koni coilovers.

I was thinking to set it up so that it has a decent drop, because I've come to the assumption that most people that prefer lowering springs over coilovers want more of an aggressive stance over competitive edge on the track. Swift lowering springs usually make lowering springs with the usable stroke of the stock shocks in mind, they normally end up lowering less than an inch. We still have time to decide on what specs the springs are going to be, so I am going to let the first set of people interested in the springs, decide on what they want. End-USER comes FIRST!!!.

But I would prefer to set the springs up as a cheaper alternative to coilovers for track use. Swift makes 2 different kinds of lowering springs, the "Sport Springs" which are basic lowering springs with the thought of a comfort in mind with a tad bit more aggressive rates. And the "Spec R", which like I said has a more track oriented setup. http://www.swiftsprings.com/products-ss_spec_r.html
In order to make these springs Swift would go and dyno the stock shocks of the MINI and measure out what the stiffest rates the shocks would be able to dampen without making the suspension feel springy. And go through the process of having several pro drivers in Japan setup the cars with different spring rates. And they choose out the best possible setup. Be assured that swift does not just copy other companies spring rates, nor will they short out on the testing. (this is why the application list is so limited, it just takes too much testing) And if its good enough for a pro its usually good enough for us.


I believe that there are many lowering springs that would make the car look good for cheaper than what the swifts would cost, but there aren't any lowering springs that would make it possible for a MINI to be competitive around a racetrack.

Let me know what you guys think.

 

I think the somewhat standard ~1" drop (taking the rake into account) would be the most anyone would want from a lowering spring. Of course the pros at Swift should decide what will work best with the limited travel available. Since a lot of people use the Koni Sport shocks (yellows), me included, I hope they can come up with a suitable rate to accommodate them. If anyone wants more than an inch, they soud be looking at coilovers anyway. I'm considering the TSW springs if this doesn't happen, and they are a bit less than an inch drop.

 

I share the same sentiments as chuckt.

around 1" drop, will work with yellow, and my fall back is tsw springs.

i'm in for set 8

8. 00zero

-jonathan

 

1. Chuckt
2. Destro
5. ninjlao (3sets)
6. Mini_Joe
7. R53 in SC
8. 00zero

By the way. I have some good news. It was originally 20 sets that we needed but I was able to cut it down to 15 sets.
We are more than half way there. just need 7 more sets.