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Old May 7, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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Alright, more pictures!

Wheelgap as is...about 12-1/4" from hub to fender, 3/4 finger gap or so with 215/35/18.


The coilover setup...


Again...my shock body has been turned all the way down into the sleeve, and my springs are preloaded about 1/4 inch.

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Old May 7, 2008 | 08:42 PM
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Hey projekt what are your front spring rates
 
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Old May 7, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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375lbs/in, or 6.7kg/mm.
I was originally aiming for 7kg/mm, but the 2.5" ID H&R's only came in imperial measurements, so I either had to go with 375lbs/in (6.7kg/mm) or 400lbs/in (7.15kg/mm). Because I wanted a more neutral balance, I went with 375lbs/in. If I wanted a more high speed natural frequency, I probably would have went with 400lbs/in.

It's important to preload the springs a little with this rate though, to get the ride height to settle correctly in damper stroke. Doing so prevents a lot of the bottoming out with this softer spring rate.
 
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Old May 8, 2008 | 05:52 AM
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Lookin good projekt7!
 
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Old May 8, 2008 | 06:21 AM
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Nice I am looking at doing the modification that I had explained earlier for a super aggressive look a little on the impractical side but then come back and readjust and be ready for some track time or spirited driving.

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375lbs/in, or 6.7kg/mm.
I was originally aiming for 7kg/mm, but the 2.5" ID H&R's only came in imperial measurements, so I either had to go with 375lbs/in (6.7kg/mm) or 400lbs/in (7.15kg/mm). Because I wanted a more neutral balance, I went with 375lbs/in. If I wanted a more high speed natural frequency, I probably would have went with 400lbs/in.

It's important to preload the springs a little with this rate though, to get the ride height to settle correctly in damper stroke. Doing so prevents a lot of the bottoming out with this softer spring rate.
 
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Old May 8, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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Lookin good projekt7!
Thanks Meb. Without your help I'd probably still be pulling my hair out trying to find a fix!
 
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Old May 8, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by checkmate2006
Nice I am looking at doing the modification that I had explained earlier for a super aggressive look a little on the impractical side but then come back and readjust and be ready for some track time or spirited driving.
You mean trimming the top of the lower shock mounting sleeve? Where are you planning on buying the shorter shock bodies? But if you do go ahead, keep me posted!
 
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Old May 9, 2008 | 07:33 AM
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Na! You're good, you've got it under control.

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Thanks Meb. Without your help I'd probably still be pulling my hair out trying to find a fix!
 
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Old May 9, 2008 | 09:43 AM
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Hey do u guys think i should just chance it and install my megans ver. 1 on and see if i am one of lucky ones that dont have any problems of bottom out. I want to be able to lower my car as much as i can but it seems like with the new version i wont be able to get the drop i want.
 

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Old May 9, 2008 | 05:52 PM
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To my knowledge (and someone please correct me if I am wrong) the only difference between the three versions are the front springs. The v1's have the 5kg/mm spring, and will certainly allow you to slam you car if you wish to do so. However, suspension travel will also be reduced to a dangerously low amount, which is why people are bottoming out.

Let's say each front corner of your MINI weighs 800lbs (very possible, btw). Assuming zero preload, the 5kg/mm (280lbs/in) front springs will settle about 2.85", while the Megan shocks only have about 3.5" of total stroke. You will then be left with only about 0.65" of bump travel! Preloading the springs would give you more compression travel, at the expense of a higher ride height and greater chance of spring bind.
 

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Old May 17, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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Are these available for the R56 yet? I'm looking at your site and it says only up to 2006 cooper s models.
 
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Old May 18, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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The Megan Coilovers are not yet out for the R56. You could run the IE Camber plates for the R56 and gain better turn in control. http://www.autoxcooper.com/ie_suspension.html about half way down the page. There are also fixed plates for the hardcore racers.
 
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Old May 19, 2008 | 07:07 PM
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The back order is over. I have 5 sets in stock ready to ship that just came out of customs. http://autoxcooper.com/megan.html#coilovers
 

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Old May 20, 2008 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by AutoXCooper.com
The Megan Coilovers are not yet out for the R56. You could run the IE Camber plates for the R56 and gain better turn in control. http://www.autoxcooper.com/ie_suspension.html about half way down the page. There are also fixed plates for the hardcore racers.
Any idea on when they will be released for the R56?
 
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Old May 30, 2008 | 07:51 PM
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I finally got my megans installed today at minicorsa. Cant believe Danny installed them in less than 1hr. We did put the new springs and shorter shocks that i got from megan. I didnt check if there was difference between the new and old shocks lengths. I have a about 1 inch gap in the front and i am hoping it will settle lower. The back is slammed just the way i like it. How long it takes the springs to settle down? Cyrus said that i should be able to lower 1-3 inches but i still have that front wheel gap.
 

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Old May 31, 2008 | 08:56 AM
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Installed my Megan CO last night. Took me and my roommate about 1.5hr to do the switch out! I was glad to see that they now come with top hats for the rear like the bc coilovers. I have the rear dropped and low as it will go and the front I still have about an inch I can lower if I want. Also, the tires I have are 225/40-18, thats why it still sits high! Here are the pics.



 
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Old May 31, 2008 | 10:04 AM
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Hey midmomini nice car. Its need to be lowered . Here are some pics of my car after installed. Even with the new spring and shock bodies megan supplied
 
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Old May 31, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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Here are some better pics I just took with it in the sun and clean. djmini, do you have your coilovers as low as they will go in the front? Like I said, mine are low as posible in the rear and still have 3/4"-1" left in the front if I wanted to.




 
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Old May 31, 2008 | 02:59 PM
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See post #102 in that picture where projekt7 shows his coilovers. that is what it looks like in the front.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by midMOmini
Here are some better pics I just took with it in the sun and clean. djmini, do you have your coilovers as low as they will go in the front? Like I said, mine are low as posible in the rear and still have 3/4"-1" left in the front if I wanted to.
But with 225/40/18's, you're cheating on the wheelgap!
On a more serious note, I am quiet surprised by how much lower you can go in the front with your current setup. I am guessing you have the early version of the Megans (5kg/mm front springs). Most of us with the v3's are having issues with the front not being able to go low enough, with lots of room to go lower in the rear. In other words, if we were to drop the front and rear to the lowest possible, we would end up with a reverse rake like djmini420's car.

By the way, how bad is rubbing with those fat tires?
 
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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 08:04 AM
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Hello Ladies and Gents,

The Megan 3.0 is not going to be as low as 1.0, but lower then 2.0. If you want the shorter springs to get the front as low as 1.0 that can be done. Just need to know it when ordering. FYI, many owners running the 1.0 springs are hitting the bump stops at speed over small bumps.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 08:08 AM
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Wow...those are them all the way down?.....sad to see that Megans don't go low at all anymore. So glad I got a set of V.1.0's while they were still available. Any idea why they no longer go lower? What is the main factor that plays such a large part in the change in ride height? What did they change to raise the car 2 inches?
 
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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 09:20 AM
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Like I said, the rear is low as it will possibly go and the front I have 3/4"- 1" left to go down it I want to. The tires rub in the back. I had to remove the inner fender in the rear and trim on the flares some to make it not rub. I have the v3 with the 8/6 spring combo.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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Mine are lower in the rear then yours also. The front on mine I had to cheat to go lower.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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Anyone noticed their Megan rubber boots are torn? I removed my rear wheels yesterday to replace the brake pads and noticed the rubber protective boot that protects the damper was completely torn and separated. Anyone else experience something similar? I've had the coilovers on since late March (AMVIV 2008).

Richard
 
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