And what kind of opinion is "decending"? Decent, descending, dissenting? I don' ged it...

 

Yes it's about time...

 

Hey, I think you guys are going off topic. :impatient

 

Does that mean we can vote for a different pres/dictator too?

 

So are we voting for the ones we WANT to win the million dollars or the ones we DONT WANT to win?

Where is the vote link please?

 

norm wrote: "I really don't have any problems with South Korea products at all."

billie writes: "Or their women."

 

goaljnky,
thanks for posting the link to the previous related thread. It was fun to read, too, and included a link to another thread. Kind of a "two-fer."

 

You are welcome.

 

Thanks Doc

It's one of my favorite reads, nothing like getting a different perception of whats going on in the world beyond US mass media.

 

another Economist reader +1

 

even when I don't agree or find some posts crap to distatseful I still prefer that to eliminating people.....

 

Depends on whether the product was from North or South Korea...

 

I guess I didn't get my point across, which is simply this: If you ordered the product, not knowing that it was made in Korea, and not having considered it enough of an issue to inquire up front, and later find out it was Korean, So what? The fact that someone else was lied to has no bearing on it. Of course, if you relied on what that someone else was told, that's another matter. But, if it is that important, check with the source.

 

In soviet russia... Mini's drive you!!! i keed i keed.

+2 for economist reader.

 

But if I don't like the tone of a specific poster, can't I just use the ignore function, so that I don't see what they say?

Or is this a situation where there are specific users who are being targeted, and this is a way around just banning those users?

 

This is true, and I engaged it for the first time yesterday.

 

Your first point is valid. And I don't think anyone would disagree with it.

However, if a vendor lied to a potential customer for the purpose of getting his or her business, I'd like to know that, because that is something I'd take into consideration when deciding where to take my business. Additionally, if I'm lied to by a vendor, I think that I have a responsibility to inform others (much as I have the exact same responsibility to praise a vendor when they do a good job).

The problem comes in when some people try to distort the facts for their own agenda, either to support the vendor or to knock it down. And once someone steps in for one side, someone else steps in for the other side, and the next thing you know, we have a thread like this, where a mountain has been made out of a molehill.

Basically, the bottom line here is that a vendor lied to a potential customer to get his money. People should see that, along with other feedback (positive & negative) before making their own informed decision.

 

As a side note, this might be more helpful if it's attached to the specific posts. As far as I can tell, I have to click on the posters name first to get to their profile & then click on ignore. It's almost hidden... Perhaps it might be more useful to others if it was attached to the posts in some way.

Of course, it's very possible that it is & I'm missing it. These things happen.

 

I agree with all of this. My post was simply addressing the posts implying that, because they are Korean made, they are inferior. The issue is the lie, not the country of origin.

 

to both of you. A point that has been missed repeatedly in this thread.

 

My comment about voting people off the island was really just a joke. Another prime example of this type of medium not accurately conveying the intention behind the message. To be specific I was making a joke and I do not wish to implement something like this.

Mark

 

Does that mean those waiting patiently in line to vote can now go back to their normal daily activities?

YES I AM KIDDING!!!

 

Of course it was a joke otherwise in a short period of time there would be no one on the NAM ISLAND for everyone would have been voted off .

 

The alleged lie is part of the issue - but it has been amplified because of the repeated attempts over the past few months to find out where the coilovers are manufactured.

Look - despite what has been alleged in this thread - the fact that the units are made in South Korea does not necessarily mean they are crap.

Four months ago Chris was allegedly told that the units were made nowhere near Asia. The reason this statement was made was because several people were concerned that these may be overseas knock-offs with little to no engineering behind them. As has already been pointed out, that comment has been either overlooked or intentionally allowed to stand.

This is easy to resolve - despite what the Vendor's backer may claim, it is in his best interests to clear this issue. Come out and state that (1) there was a miscommunication and (2) that Chris' original comments relating M7's claims were not seen. Otherwise, as another poster has mentioned, for better or worse the assumption will be that Chris was intentionally lied to.

I don't see the harm in additionally commenting on what specific engineering was incorporated into these coilovers to differentiate them from other products from this manufacturer. It would go a long way to making people believe that these are not just rebranded knock-offs.

 

Ahhh. I have smilies blocked (as I got tired of seeing posts with a large number of them or posts only containing them), so I didn't see the wink-face until I looked from another browser. If I had seen that, I would have been able to pick up on the joking nature of your modest proposal.

I withdraw my comment.