Software upgraded to 39.2 issues on MCS
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Still waiting to hear from those of you who are just learning to reset the ECU--did it work? Did it "fix" your v39 update to work right?
if so, wonder why the dealers don't know to do it, followed by a quick drive to get it started off right?
I'm waiting for more good news before I'm off to get my mandatory update, from my "not-perfect" v36, but damn good enuff ...I'm due for service nearly immediately, so please someone who was having v39 headaches post how the ECU reset worked (or didn't ) for you!
Thanks...
if so, wonder why the dealers don't know to do it, followed by a quick drive to get it started off right?
I'm waiting for more good news before I'm off to get my mandatory update, from my "not-perfect" v36, but damn good enuff ...I'm due for service nearly immediately, so please someone who was having v39 headaches post how the ECU reset worked (or didn't ) for you!
Thanks...
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Originally Posted by Ryephile
I theorize that, as AGOKART said, you have to reset the ECU [test 19, subtest 21] to make V39 run well, just like I discovered with V38. The car will run like CRAP until you reset the ECU. The was never an issue with earlier software versions, and I honetly can't say what the reset literally does, other than guess the reset "makes the code happy".
I've got a pulley and CAI on my MCS.
Is there anyone out there with a non-pullied MCS that is experiencing this?
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--->jmoser - when was the last time you ran across an intelligent dealership staff, seriously? Even if they knew to "reboot the computer", they would no doubt screw up the driving bed-in process.
--->Herby74 - I know you know better. I'll give you a hint; the answer starts with "N".
--->dominic - vehicle config usually has nothing to do with how crappy the ECU handles the car, or more specifically the e-gas. The e-gas has been the MINI's ECU programming nemesis for a long time. Remember that my car yo-yo'd all the way from bone stock to it's current state, regardless of engine mods or ECU mapping. It's the ECU algorithms that are written wrong.
--->Herby74 - I know you know better. I'll give you a hint; the answer starts with "N".
--->dominic - vehicle config usually has nothing to do with how crappy the ECU handles the car, or more specifically the e-gas. The e-gas has been the MINI's ECU programming nemesis for a long time. Remember that my car yo-yo'd all the way from bone stock to it's current state, regardless of engine mods or ECU mapping. It's the ECU algorithms that are written wrong.
Last edited by Ryephile; 11-20-2004 at 09:38 AM.
#33
OK, got back from a 20 mile drive. Drop 5 miles (city and hiway). Turned off car and restarted. Drove 5 miles hiway and found that the rev-limiter maxs out at 7K RPMs now. Turned off car and restarted and drove 10 miles back home. Not sure if this is enough time for the ECU to learn, but the car certainly "feels" better. There's still one thing I still felt in the first five miles. Cruising on the freeway (part constant throttle position) I can feel a "sputter" where it seems like the fuel is shut-off and picked up again quickly.
Like I said, the car certainly feels better on throttle pickup and throttle let-off. However, I'm wondering how much of a placebo effect it is, where my brain wants it to be better so it is better. So, on Monday, I'll ask my car-pool buddy if he notices any difference (but I won't tell him I reset the ECU). I'll keep you all posted.
I'm going to check my by-pass butterfly adjustment. Maybe I'm leaking some air and the ECU is trying to pick it up correctly.
I couldn't get into function 20 (MPG adjustment). Anyone know how?
Like I said, the car certainly feels better on throttle pickup and throttle let-off. However, I'm wondering how much of a placebo effect it is, where my brain wants it to be better so it is better. So, on Monday, I'll ask my car-pool buddy if he notices any difference (but I won't tell him I reset the ECU). I'll keep you all posted.
I'm going to check my by-pass butterfly adjustment. Maybe I'm leaking some air and the ECU is trying to pick it up correctly.
I couldn't get into function 20 (MPG adjustment). Anyone know how?
#34
Rant: Oh GREAT!!!! I'm so thrilled! I had the cold start, so I had the ECU upgraded to fix that, which gave me the stumble. Had the ECU upgraded to fix the stumble, wound up with a modified stumble and got the cold start problem back. NOW I have to have an upgrade to fix something I didn't even know was broken, and here it will further break my car.
I'M SICK OF THIS ****, MINIUSA!!!!! People ask how I like my car and I tell them; "I love it... BUT" YOU'RE GETTING BAD WORD-OF-MOUTH, MINIUSA!!! BAD, BAD, BAAAAAD!!! And don't think for one second that I will EVER "upgrade" to a 1 series when you finally make them available here: I'd just as soon run over my grandmother with a lurchy, twice-started, herky-jerky MINI (I do, by the way, have perpetual access to just such a car, thanks to you).
/RANT.
And now onto the question phase...
Ryephile, etc: is there any conceivable way that I could screw up my car attempting to reset the computer, since I'll apparently have to?
I'm horrifically whiny, but I've been putting off the recall work specifically to see if there were any issues... *grumble*
I'M SICK OF THIS ****, MINIUSA!!!!! People ask how I like my car and I tell them; "I love it... BUT" YOU'RE GETTING BAD WORD-OF-MOUTH, MINIUSA!!! BAD, BAD, BAAAAAD!!! And don't think for one second that I will EVER "upgrade" to a 1 series when you finally make them available here: I'd just as soon run over my grandmother with a lurchy, twice-started, herky-jerky MINI (I do, by the way, have perpetual access to just such a car, thanks to you).
/RANT.
And now onto the question phase...
Ryephile, etc: is there any conceivable way that I could screw up my car attempting to reset the computer, since I'll apparently have to?
I'm horrifically whiny, but I've been putting off the recall work specifically to see if there were any issues... *grumble*
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#36
I'm sorry...reset or no reset...V38 SUCKS!!! My milage sucks at any speed over 75 in 6th gear and there is definitely a "dead" zone from -10 to 0 psi range...as if the engine is being retarded by the ECU. The problem is that's where 80mph and 6th gear fall into!!! At that speed/gear, I'm getting 19mph If I shift down to 5th at the same speed, my milage goes up to 26! WTF I too wish I could have my V36 back I'M SO PISSED OFF AT WHAT THEY'VE DONE
#37
Just curious to know why we haven't heard a word from MINIUSA about this
We all know they're reading those threads...
Start to wonder if there's a possible legal route MCS owners could take to solve this issue, especially in Califronia where they will not re-register the car if we haven't done the upgrade
We all know they're reading those threads...
Start to wonder if there's a possible legal route MCS owners could take to solve this issue, especially in Califronia where they will not re-register the car if we haven't done the upgrade
#38
Sid - The best tank I've had is 34.5 MPG with V38+UNIchip+Ryephix2, which was en-route to The Dragon this July. Now that I've switched to the Kumho MX's, my best tank has been 29.2 MPG with the same setup and route. BIG delta with the only change being tires! I know you're running these tires too, so keep my observations in-mind.
#39
i have this sneaking suspicion that mini/bmw wants to test just how much utter CRAP new car buyers will take if they inject enough enthusiasm into a brand.
Windshield. Coolant tank. Power steering fan. ECU. Rattles. And for me specifically, the limp home mode activation.
Don't give me that "it's only a 20k car..." divide 20k by the number of chipotle burritos you can buy! That's roughly 3750-4000 burritos! DELICIOUS DOWN THE DRAIN!
FIX OUR CARS PLEASE. You're already on your 4th set. What else can you screw up? Honestly.
Windshield. Coolant tank. Power steering fan. ECU. Rattles. And for me specifically, the limp home mode activation.
Don't give me that "it's only a 20k car..." divide 20k by the number of chipotle burritos you can buy! That's roughly 3750-4000 burritos! DELICIOUS DOWN THE DRAIN!
FIX OUR CARS PLEASE. You're already on your 4th set. What else can you screw up? Honestly.
#40
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
I'm sorry...reset or no reset...V38 SUCKS!!! My milage sucks at any speed over 75 in 6th gear and there is definitely a "dead" zone from -10 to 0 psi range...as if the engine is being retarded by the ECU. The problem is that's where 80mph and 6th gear fall into!!! At that speed/gear, I'm getting 19mph If I shift down to 5th at the same speed, my milage goes up to 26! WTF I too wish I could have my V36 back I'M SO PISSED OFF AT WHAT THEY'VE DONE
Ryephile, what size Kumho MX's I have been considering them.
Does anyone actually know if this is 39.1 or 39.2??
In the How to on computer's "back door" can someone explain 20.0 Correction factor's for fuel consumption.
#41
Originally Posted by MSFITOY
I'm sorry...reset or no reset...V38 SUCKS!!! My milage sucks at any speed over 75 in 6th gear and there is definitely a "dead" zone from -10 to 0 psi range...as if the engine is being retarded by the ECU. The problem is that's where 80mph and 6th gear fall into!!! At that speed/gear, I'm getting 19mph If I shift down to 5th at the same speed, my milage goes up to 26! WTF I too wish I could have my V36 back I'M SO PISSED OFF AT WHAT THEY'VE DONE
it even made me more pissed off after getting a ride home from Steve's last night from Dave and his lovely wife. His car with the new JCW05 software drove wonderful compared to the chugging crap that I have. It was a pleasure to ride in a car that didn't bog or chug . I want to thank Dave and his wife for their hospitality again. It truly separates the Mini community from the rest. Can't wait to do some motoring next month with them after the TWINCHARGE is done.
#42
I bet that the EPA would be interested to know that cars sold at one mileage rating were effectively being converted to a much lower MPG.
When I was upgraded some months ago to v3?? I saw a consumption increase and drivability decrease.
I have a new absolute rule about car-buying: I won't own another car with Siemans software.
Jeff
When I was upgraded some months ago to v3?? I saw a consumption increase and drivability decrease.
I have a new absolute rule about car-buying: I won't own another car with Siemans software.
Jeff
#44
Originally Posted by Ryephile
Sid - The best tank I've had is 34.5 MPG with V38+UNIchip+Ryephix2, which was en-route to The Dragon this July. Now that I've switched to the Kumho MX's, my best tank has been 29.2 MPG with the same setup and route. BIG delta with the only change being tires! I know you're running these tires too, so keep my observations in-mind.
#46
Remember that your computer mpg is only an estimate, and your actual mpg may be different. The new ECU programming could have some affect on the computer readings, but possibly none or little on the actual mpg. I don't believe any computer's mpg. When I want to measure mpg I do it the old fashioned way: when you fill up, set your trip mileage to zero (or write down the full mileage), then when you fill up again, write down the new mileage and subtract it from the earlier mileage. Then divide that by the gallons it took to fill your tank this time. Bwala -- your actual mpg. :smile:
#47
Originally Posted by jazmini
Remember that your computer mpg is only an estimate, and your actual mpg may be different. The new ECU programming could have some affect on the computer readings, but possibly none or little on the actual mpg. I don't believe any computer's mpg. When I want to measure mpg I do it the old fashioned way: when you fill up, set your trip mileage to zero (or write down the full mileage), then when you fill up again, write down the new mileage and subtract it from the earlier mileage. Then divide that by the gallons it took to fill your tank this time. Bwala -- your actual mpg. :smile:
#49
Originally Posted by dominicminicoopers
Not sure if this is enough time for the ECU to learn, but the car certainly "feels" better.
Anyone know how to get into setting 20? When I cycle thru the numbers, 20 is missing.