Multiple P codes - common sensor/device ECU power supply pin
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Multiple P codes - common sensor/device ECU power supply pin
2007 Mini Cooper S, 108k, AEM Intake and aftermarket vent to atmosphere blow-off valve with pneumatic solenoid
Codes:
P0100 Mass Airflow Sensor Circuit Continuity Monitoring
P113B
P0010 A Camshaft Position Actuator Control Circuit
P0444 Evaporative Purge Control Valve Circuit Open
P2088 A Camshaft Position Actuator Control Valve Low
P0458 Evaporative Purge Control Valve Circuit Low
Of these, P0100 and P113B come on as pending with ECU cleared of codes / ignition on. Start engine and the other four are flagged quickly.
Car shows low power (half) CEL. Drives normally but no power.
Car was previously fine. Drove on a short errand and on the drive home, CEL illuminates and no power (won't build boost).
Codes:
P0100 Mass Airflow Sensor Circuit Continuity Monitoring
P113B
P0010 A Camshaft Position Actuator Control Circuit
P0444 Evaporative Purge Control Valve Circuit Open
P2088 A Camshaft Position Actuator Control Valve Low
P0458 Evaporative Purge Control Valve Circuit Low
Of these, P0100 and P113B come on as pending with ECU cleared of codes / ignition on. Start engine and the other four are flagged quickly.
Car shows low power (half) CEL. Drives normally but no power.
Car was previously fine. Drove on a short errand and on the drive home, CEL illuminates and no power (won't build boost).
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Looking at the diagram and thinking further about the problem at large, solenoids (BOV, WG, purge, VANOS) would normally operate at 12V, no?
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Incorrect data here. Looks like my multimeter was misbehaving. Voltage was consistent 3.5V at all points when using a proper (Fluke) multimeter. Well, it was 5V at the ECU, then 3.5V at the ECU. ECU apparently can't make it's mind up.
Looking at the diagram and thinking further about the problem at large, solenoids (BOV, WG, purge, VANOS) would normally operate at 12V, no?
Looking at the diagram and thinking further about the problem at large, solenoids (BOV, WG, purge, VANOS) would normally operate at 12V, no?
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Well, the same pin also showed 12V at some point during testing, slightly inaccurate voltmeter may have been less of a culprit and an inconsistent ECU more of a culprit.
Three different voltages measured with the key in accessory and no other change at the same location?
Voltage can't vary at this pin to 5 different devices. That makes no sense and seems to violate basic principles of electronics. It is a parallel circuit. Voltage coming out of the pin should be equal at all 5 points. All 5 points have continuity with each other with little resistance/difference in resistance.
I don't understand BMW/Mini service manuals/procedures. I'm not a BMW/Mini trained tech but I've been servicing my own cars using factory (Mazda) manuals for a long time. They (Mazda) list the nominal output voltages and resistances for almost all of the ECU controls and many other parts of the vehicle. They still seem to list them for OBD-II cars in newer factory manuals.
Three different voltages measured with the key in accessory and no other change at the same location?
Voltage can't vary at this pin to 5 different devices. That makes no sense and seems to violate basic principles of electronics. It is a parallel circuit. Voltage coming out of the pin should be equal at all 5 points. All 5 points have continuity with each other with little resistance/difference in resistance.
I don't understand BMW/Mini service manuals/procedures. I'm not a BMW/Mini trained tech but I've been servicing my own cars using factory (Mazda) manuals for a long time. They (Mazda) list the nominal output voltages and resistances for almost all of the ECU controls and many other parts of the vehicle. They still seem to list them for OBD-II cars in newer factory manuals.
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Apparently, I have the Forge Blow-off valve kit:
https://www.forgemotorsport.com/Blow...uct--1026.html
https://www.forgemotorsport.com/Blow...uct--1026.html
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It could be a bad ECU output but it could also be a short or an open circuit on that pin. ECU repair was $500-ish at the time I posted this.
You can point your technician to this thread to reduce some research time and it is possible the 12V output is not working on that circuit...BUT...it could be a short or open and another ECU may not solve the problem or it could be damaged if plugged into your car.
You have to get ECU/CAS/keys as a group if you want to swap secondhand parts with no coding, if I recall correctly. Not exactly plug and play...
Repair to that circuit fixed the check engine codes in my case but then one right after another, was electronic throttle body failure, coils went bad and it’s on it’s 3rd HPFP (second one was the cheap $150-200 non-OEM which worked for a while and then same symptoms returned, so I bought the ~$450 Valeo) and all these failures were within a
span of a few hundred miles.
As fun as the car is, it will probably be the first to go if I have to cull the herd.
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