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Old 08-08-2016, 10:44 AM
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ASC(Traction Control) Not Deactivating

Hi everyone.
I've tried switching the fuse, and holding/toggling the ASC switch and the light doesn't come on and the ASC has not turned off.
Is there a way to test the ASC by touching wires together?
Any advice is welcome.

Thanks,

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Old 08-10-2016, 08:14 AM
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You need to find a quality scan tool and diagnose the problem technically, don't start jumping wires.

If you can, try to find a used switch panel that is known to work and see if that fixes your problem.
 
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Yes it's been awhile lol. I have found a working switch panel and tried to turn it off again today. It's still not deactivating. What scan tool do I need for that? I only have an obd2 atm.
 
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Why would you want it turned off? This thing has been engineered to handle better with it on.
I believe there is a relay under the hood, that may be stuck on.
 
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Any other dash lights on with it?
 
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Why would you want it turned off? This thing has been engineered to handle better with it on.
I believe there is a relay under the hood, that may be stuck on.
Where can I find the relay? Or what is it called, I can perhaps look up some diagrams.
 
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Any other dash lights on with it?
no lights on the rpm gauge or anything, just the notorious airbag sensor.
 
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Why would you want it turned off? This thing has been engineered to handle better with it on.
I believe there is a relay under the hood, that may be stuck on.
Also, I'm planning on doing some autocross weekends, I can tell the ASC is bogging down my speed in corners.
 
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Also, I'm planning on doing some autocross weekends, I can tell the ASC is bogging down my speed in corners.
Yes, it will do that by cutting off a cylinder (engine), if it feels like it will go out of control. It will do this, so it will be able to react to the situation.
I guess you will need it off for race days.
 
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There is a recall on passenger airbag, that may need to be corrected. Who knows, maybe it is also tied into the traction control. I don't know for sure.
 
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borrowed from Mini Mania:
ASC/DSC EXPLAINED

You've had some questions regarding Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) & Automatic Stability Control (ASC). We at Mini Mania would like to present the following information for your consideration.

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FUNCTION: ASC & DSC work with the ABS system to provide enhanced vehicle stability.
ASC - Automatic Stability Control ASC uses speed sensors at each wheel and throttle position to improve traction by applying the rear brakes if the rear wheels spin faster than the front. It can also shut off individual fuel injectors and close the throttle valve to help maximize traction. ASC also acts as a virtual limited slip differential by detecting a spinning wheel and applying braking force to just that wheel until traction is regained. AWD models (the BMW xi) use ASC-X which monitors all 4 wheels to provide limited slip differential effect. The ASC system also provides traction control by modulating throttle, ignition timing and braking force to maintain traction.
DSC - Dynamic Stability Control DSC builds on the features of the ASC system. While ASC functions only during acceleration and braking, DSC functions during all driving conditions such as cornering and emergency maneuvers. Additional sensors are added to acheive this level of stability such as lateral, yaw, brake pedal, and steering angle sensors. In DSC, each of the three subsystems: ABS, ASC, and DSC have jobs to do, and these are: ABS: Cornering Brake Control, Electronic Brake Proportioning ASC: Brake Intervention (or ABD-Automatic Braking Differential), Drag/Drive Torque Reduction DSC: Dynamic Brake Control, Maximum Brake Control
Let's dig deeper, shall we?

Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) is a suspension control system which goes beyond the single components of Anti-lock Brake System (ABS), Cornering Brake Control (CBC) and Automatic Stability Control + Traction (ASC + T). The steering wheel movement, vehicle speed, transverse acceleration and yaw are all used by DSC to register imminent instability when cornering. DSC then intervenes via the engine management system, reducing drive torque and activating wheel brakes when necessary to keep the vehicle stable. These events occur within milliseconds. DSC is, in fact, a further development of the ABS and ASC+T slip control systems. While ASC + T analyzes the longitudinal forces occurring in straight-ahead operation, DSC additionally registers and analyses lateral dynamic forces. When cornering at high speeds, DSC counters unstable vehicle states such as oversteering (rear of car brakes into a slide towards the outside of the curve) or understeering (front of car pushes towards the outside of the curve). The DSC feature can provide maximum stability when cornering. With DSC there is a significant reduction in the risk of skidding. BMW's Dynamic Stability Control system has been available on a variety of BMW models over the last three years. Here's how it works: DSC constantly compares vehicle speed, wheel speed, steering angle, and yaw rate with a benchmark of plausible and optimum driving conditions' data. In a fraction of a second, DSC recognizes a threatening instability and a danger of skidding. The DSC system can correct an unstable driving condition by applying precise braking action to the individual wheels. As with ASC, DSC will if necessary also cut back the engine speed to automatically stabilize the vehicle. The ASC + T system will reduce engine output until the vehicle can move or or until acceleration can occur without the wheels spinning. If this reduction is insufficient, each drive wheel is braked individually until both wheels have optimum traction. This makes it possible to drive on snow, wet roads or other slippery grounds without the wheels spinning. Even if the back wheels suddenly lose traction in a bend during acceleration, ASC + T intervenes so quickly that the vehicle is stabilized before it can oversteer and swing out of the bend. The instrument console informs the driver of any control intervention and the relevant situation. The DSC computer constantly calculates an ideal driving condition that is compared with the current status. If the vehicle oversteers or understeers, the calculated ideal deviates from the measured status, and DSC will intervene within a few milliseconds via the engine management system by reducing the engine torque and applying the brakes on individual wheels where necessary. DSC makes use of the ABS wheel-speed sensors and the following additional components: steering angle sensor to detect the driver's chosen path. lateral-acceleration sensor to define the lateral forces which must be transmitted to the road by the tires. rate-of-turn sensor to define the vehicle's degree of rotary movement. brake-pressure sensor to define the longitudinal forces acting between tires and road surface under braking.

ASC/DSC CONTROL BUTTON The control button on the center console is used to deactivate the ASC/DSC systems.
NOTE: On all systems, ABS IS ACTIVE AT ALL TIMES. A indicator lamp between the tachometer and speedometer is used to show ASC/DSC status.A flashing indicator lamp indicates the system has activated. A steady indicator lamp indicates the system is turned off or inoperative.
On the ASC system: Press the ASC button to disable ACS while leaving ABD active.
On rear-wheel drive DSC systems: Press the DSC button to disable DSC while leaving ABD active.Press and hold the DSC button for 3+ seconds and the "BRAKE" instrument panel lamp will light yellow and disable all stability/traction systems.
On all-wheel drive (xi) DSC systems: Press the DSC button to disable DSC while leaving ADB active in maximum output mode.
On ALL systems: Pressing the ASC/DSC button again will reactive the system. If the indicator lamp does not go out or if it should come on and stay on during driving, a component has failed and should be serviced.
 
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