Sandy Shifter?--need help...
OK, so I have an aftermarket shift **** on my MCS...and it's a little heavier than the stock ****. I've had it on there since spring, and never noticed any problems. This morning, as I was pulling off the highway near work, I noticed a "sandy" or "gritty" feel as I shifted between gears. Nothing major, but not as smooth and mechanical as before. Also, there seems to be a little looseness when I pull it out of gear into neutral. Again, nothing major, but I never noticed it before.
I drive past a MINI dealership on the way to work anyway, so I pulled in and had them look at it. They claim that there doesn't seem to anything really wrong, and that if anything, the extra weight of the shift **** may be affecting the shift linkage, even deteriorating the parts. I'd never heard of this before, but it seems to be in the realm of possibilities. Needless to say, I'll be replacing the stock **** for now, to see if that helps...if not, they told me to bring it back in with the stock **** attached.
So, any advice or experience with this? Could it be the ****?
Thanks!
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I drive past a MINI dealership on the way to work anyway, so I pulled in and had them look at it. They claim that there doesn't seem to anything really wrong, and that if anything, the extra weight of the shift **** may be affecting the shift linkage, even deteriorating the parts. I'd never heard of this before, but it seems to be in the realm of possibilities. Needless to say, I'll be replacing the stock **** for now, to see if that helps...if not, they told me to bring it back in with the stock **** attached.
So, any advice or experience with this? Could it be the ****?
Thanks!
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<IMG SRC="https://www.northamericanmotoring.co....jpg"> BLK MCS All 3 packages...I call him...Buster.
Ok... I know nothing of any importance about transmissions/shifters but maybe people will respond to refute what I'm saying and that aould get you somewhere :smile:
I have a Whalen shift **** (heavy) and I haven't noticed any change *for the worse* in shift-feel. It's just all wonderful. I haven't had the it for a terribly long time, though--just since fall, for perhaps 1500 miles or so.
While the Whalen is absolutely heavier, it doesn't seem like it would really be THAT big a deal--I obviously don't know about your **** ( :smile:
I have a Whalen shift **** (heavy) and I haven't noticed any change *for the worse* in shift-feel. It's just all wonderful. I haven't had the it for a terribly long time, though--just since fall, for perhaps 1500 miles or so.
While the Whalen is absolutely heavier, it doesn't seem like it would really be THAT big a deal--I obviously don't know about your **** ( :smile:
>>hope this helps:
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>>http://www.rogueengineering.com/Merc...gory_Code=SNNN
mr. free body diagram engineer chimes in again: i don't know that the rougue analysis applies to a mini. it may apply to a shifter sticking right out of the transmission, as in one of the rwd bmws or a miata. but the mini shift column is supported by a cross pivot that seems sturdy enough to take the vertical weight of more than the stock ****. in addition, to move the shafts in the mini transmission, the end of the shift column moves in a plane normal to the weight of the column.
flyboy2160
p.s. and no, i don't have a whalen/weighted ****; i think the idea is ridiculous. i just cut down my shifter shaft to shorten the throw. but my not liking the weighted ***** doesn't mean they caused your problem..
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>>http://www.rogueengineering.com/Merc...gory_Code=SNNN
mr. free body diagram engineer chimes in again: i don't know that the rougue analysis applies to a mini. it may apply to a shifter sticking right out of the transmission, as in one of the rwd bmws or a miata. but the mini shift column is supported by a cross pivot that seems sturdy enough to take the vertical weight of more than the stock ****. in addition, to move the shafts in the mini transmission, the end of the shift column moves in a plane normal to the weight of the column.
flyboy2160
p.s. and no, i don't have a whalen/weighted ****; i think the idea is ridiculous. i just cut down my shifter shaft to shorten the throw. but my not liking the weighted ***** doesn't mean they caused your problem..
Thanks folks...(and you Om...naughty!)
I agree about the weight of an arm and/or heavy throw having more influence. I have big arms (but try to go easy on my shifts, and don't push them). I've got a Whalen too, and love it, and am hoping that's not the problem. Of course, right now in the Mid-Atlantic, the Whalen is FREEZING, so I may switch back to the stock **** anyway until spring. The problem isn't serious, and I may just have my younger brother (a mechanic) take a look at it over Christmas...
Thanks again!
I agree about the weight of an arm and/or heavy throw having more influence. I have big arms (but try to go easy on my shifts, and don't push them). I've got a Whalen too, and love it, and am hoping that's not the problem. Of course, right now in the Mid-Atlantic, the Whalen is FREEZING, so I may switch back to the stock **** anyway until spring. The problem isn't serious, and I may just have my younger brother (a mechanic) take a look at it over Christmas...
Thanks again!
every time the vehicle velocity changes (that is, there is an acceleration), either in magnitude, direction or both, the shift **** has to be accelerated as well or it would not stay in the car. The force applying this is applied through the shift linkage to the ****, and if the **** is heavier, the force has to be greater. These force aqpplicaitons will be extremely frequent, especially compared to gearshift events.
I would imagine that with a heavy enough ****, sooner or later the force required would equal that to shift the trans, so you could auto-downshift from 4th to 3rd by just braking and stepping on the clutch.
I would imagine that with a heavy enough ****, sooner or later the force required would equal that to shift the trans, so you could auto-downshift from 4th to 3rd by just braking and stepping on the clutch.
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>>every time the vehicle velocity changes (that is, there is an acceleration), either in magnitude, direction or both, the shift **** has to be accelerated as well or it would not stay in the car. The force applying this is applied through the shift linkage to the ****, and if the **** is heavier, the force has to be greater. These force aqpplicaitons will be extremely frequent, especially compared to gearshift events.
>>I would imagine that with a heavy enough ****, sooner or later the force required would equal that to shift the trans, so you could auto-downshift from 4th to 3rd by just braking and stepping on the clutch.
flyboy2160
>>I would imagine that with a heavy enough ****, sooner or later the force required would equal that to shift the trans, so you could auto-downshift from 4th to 3rd by just braking and stepping on the clutch.
flyboy2160
>>I would imagine that with a heavy enough ****, sooner or later the force required would equal that to shift the trans, so you could auto-downshift from 4th to 3rd by just braking and stepping on the clutch.<<
jlm -
With your new engine will you be able to do a 3->4 as well?
You will really have to be Whalen!
:smile:
jlm -
With your new engine will you be able to do a 3->4 as well?
You will really have to be Whalen!
:smile:
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