Low Speed Fan Resistor - we need solution
#1376
You need to re-read this ENTIRE thread. Then you will understand.
Look at the fan harness above the radiator on the driver side - there should be one thick red wire and one thinner red wire going to the fan. The thick wire is the high speed - the thinner one is the low speed.
What year is your car again?
When my high speed fan was on I could also see the power steering fan start but it would immediately stop when the high speed fan stopped.
Therefore, I think you might need a new power steering fan as well. Like I said I found one for $85 shipped from an oem manufacturer (Dorman). Click on this Amazon link below:
Buy the resistor and do the mod. Buy a new power steering fan. You will be all set.
Look at the fan harness above the radiator on the driver side - there should be one thick red wire and one thinner red wire going to the fan. The thick wire is the high speed - the thinner one is the low speed.
What year is your car again?
When my high speed fan was on I could also see the power steering fan start but it would immediately stop when the high speed fan stopped.
Therefore, I think you might need a new power steering fan as well. Like I said I found one for $85 shipped from an oem manufacturer (Dorman). Click on this Amazon link below:
Buy the resistor and do the mod. Buy a new power steering fan. You will be all set.
#1377
From that I understood you were NOT getting low speed fan operation.
So I'm confused.
If you are not getting power steering fan operation, try popping in another fan. I got mine for like $85 oem manufacturer.
Plus if your car is that old it's probably shot like mine was. Could barely turn it with my finger it was so stuck.
Not sure why you can't start your car after disconnecting the battery. It shouldn't be a problem as I've done that a lot and never had that issue. You might have other issues electrically it seems.
So I'm confused.
If you are not getting power steering fan operation, try popping in another fan. I got mine for like $85 oem manufacturer.
Plus if your car is that old it's probably shot like mine was. Could barely turn it with my finger it was so stuck.
Not sure why you can't start your car after disconnecting the battery. It shouldn't be a problem as I've done that a lot and never had that issue. You might have other issues electrically it seems.
#1378
my Mini is an 06 ragtop. The wirung harness that gies to my engine fan gas obe brown wire, one red/green wire and one red/blue wire. My low speed fan operation is working. I haven't had it hot enough to see if my high speed fan operation is working. My PS pump fan is not working. As much as I hate throwing oarts at a problem rather fhan effectively troubleshooting, I'm buying a PS PUMP FAN and draining and refilling the PS hoping I don't have to buy a new PS pump. It takes a few minutes to develop assist after starting.
It should stay on. Understand? You seem to have an issue with understanding.
The THICKER red wire is the high speed. The THINNER red wire is the low speed.
Understand? You seem to have an issue with understanding.
#1381
If your fan is coming on and off when the ac is on and the temp is low and fan control at 1, then your low speed fan is NOT working properly.
It should stay on. Understand? You seem to have an issue with understanding.
The THICKER red wire is the high speed. The THINNER red wire is the low speed.
Understand? You seem to have an issue with understanding.
It should stay on. Understand? You seem to have an issue with understanding.
The THICKER red wire is the high speed. The THINNER red wire is the low speed.
Understand? You seem to have an issue with understanding.
#1382
#1383
Your PS pump motor is dying and will eventually go out completely. This is a common and well known problem in the 1st gen MINI. There was a safety recall for 2002-2005 PS pump failures (link). They revised the PS pump in 2005 but the newer pump fails as well and not covered by the recall. The problem is that it isn't a brushless motor and the brush contacts simply wear out. I had a 2006 R52 and it failed at about 70K miles.
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Also, does your car have parking distance sensors and did you check the fuse for the PS fan? The same fuse is used for both and when a sensor malfunctions, some people pull the fuse instead of fixing the problem, or pebbles get caught in the fan seizing it up which can also blow the fuse.
#1388
From that I understood you were NOT getting low speed fan operation.
So I'm confused.
If you are not getting power steering fan operation, try popping in another fan. I got mine for like $85 oem manufacturer.
Plus if your car is that old it's probably shot like mine was. Could barely turn it with my finger it was so stuck.
Not sure why you can't start your car after disconnecting the battery. It shouldn't be a problem as I've done that a lot and never had that issue. You might have other issues electrically it seems.
So I'm confused.
If you are not getting power steering fan operation, try popping in another fan. I got mine for like $85 oem manufacturer.
Plus if your car is that old it's probably shot like mine was. Could barely turn it with my finger it was so stuck.
Not sure why you can't start your car after disconnecting the battery. It shouldn't be a problem as I've done that a lot and never had that issue. You might have other issues electrically it seems.
#1389
Gen 1's usually have an issue with the power steering hoses leaking. Sometimes they can be fixed by replacing the oem clamps with standard screw clamps, but often times not. If you haven't checked or replaced your PS hoses recently, it might be a good time since you are already replacing the pump and fluid.
Also, does your car have parking distance sensors and did you check the fuse for the PS fan? The same fuse is used for both and when a sensor malfunctions, some people pull the fuse instead of fixing the problem, or pebbles get caught in the fan seizing it up which can also blow the fuse.
Also, does your car have parking distance sensors and did you check the fuse for the PS fan? The same fuse is used for both and when a sensor malfunctions, some people pull the fuse instead of fixing the problem, or pebbles get caught in the fan seizing it up which can also blow the fuse.
#1390
Hopeless? Hopeless is patching electrical components with 133,000 miles on them. With what I've just ordered I'll still have less than $6000 in an 06 vert with a perfect body, top, and interior. With over 60 60 years of car, mororcycle, and boat building experience, I consider it a smart decision.
The one exception (and why he might have said hopeless): that CVT transmission. They're notoriously unreliable. Mine went out at around 120k miles. Some folks get a few more miles out of it, some a lot less. Replacement cost is $6k or more. I swapped in a 6-speed manual when my CVT died, which was significantly cheaper than putting in another CVT, but still very costly. At 133k miles, if your CVT hasn't been replaced, it really is just a matter of time.
If you do change the CVT fluid, make sure you reset the adaptations. The CVT fluid change is actually one of the few things I would recommend having a dealer do because of the adaptations procedure and needing BMW software to do it. This thread is about the radiator fan, so PM me if you have questions about the CVT rather than posting in this thread.
#1391
Thanks, I'm going to be going through the setup steps when I change the fluid. Surely I can do it better than the used car dealer who did it before I bought it. I suspect he also used regular transmission fluid, so even though it functions perfectly, I'm replacing it with Redline synthetic CVT fluid.
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#1393
I fixed my resistor today. The first symptom I noticed was that the high-speed fan would stay on more often after I parked. I didn't think much of it, until one day in traffic I glanced over and my temp gauge was pegged. My oil looks fine though, so fortunately I don't think there's any head damage. There's a lot of info in this thread to sift through, so I made a single diagram that might be helpful for the electrically disinclined.
Originally I intended to solder all the connections, but my 25W iron and rusty technique weren't up to the task, and so I ended up with a splice-lock connector instead. The wiring is untied in the diagram in order to clearly show what went where. After tidying up, I wrapped everything up in electrical tape.
Originally I intended to solder all the connections, but my 25W iron and rusty technique weren't up to the task, and so I ended up with a splice-lock connector instead. The wiring is untied in the diagram in order to clearly show what went where. After tidying up, I wrapped everything up in electrical tape.
What the hell vendors? Let's get together some new DIY info. And, how about stocking a few kits for this fix.
I mean over 1,000 post and no clear DIY/PN... C'mon now.
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#1394
I used the picture above and when completed, put the plug back in place which pushes the splices behind the radiator so you cannot see them. The only way somebody can tell I did the "fix" is that you can see the resistor. You can buy two of the resistors on Amazon for $4.98. I have a spare resistor with the wires already soldered in place in the rear compartment tool kit. If the resistor on the motor mount burns out, I can replace it with my spare in about 5 minutes.
If you do be sure to get some good heat sink material. Radio Shack sells for a couple of dollars.
If you do be sure to get some good heat sink material. Radio Shack sells for a couple of dollars.
#1395
I used the picture above and when completed, put the plug back in place which pushes the splices behind the radiator so you cannot see them. The only way somebody can tell I did the "fix" is that you can see the resistor. You can buy two of the resistors on Amazon for $4.98. I have a spare resistor with the wires already soldered in place in the rear compartment tool kit. If the resistor on the motor mount burns out, I can replace it with my spare in about 5 minutes.
If you do be sure to get some good heat sink material. Radio Shack sells for a couple of dollars.
If you do be sure to get some good heat sink material. Radio Shack sells for a couple of dollars.
Good thing you have a spare. Seems Mouser has them backordered for MONTHS! I searched around and found a Chinese made resistor, cheap, think it was on EEEbay? Same ohm's, resistance, etc. Should arrive soon. Hitting up Best Buy tomorrow for the heat sink (never used the stuff before), but hopefully I'll get the lower speed working before the weekend. Damn 90°F days are pretty much here in SC.
Edit: Car intake temp hit 250°F while I was in line to pick my daughter up from school!
Last edited by Andrew Riley; 05-10-2017 at 02:23 PM.
#1396
Good thing you have a spare. Seems Mouser has them backordered for MONTHS! I searched around and found a Chinese made resistor, cheap, think it was on EEEbay? Same ohm's, resistance, etc. Should arrive soon. Hitting up Best Buy tomorrow for the heat sink (never used the stuff before), but hopefully I'll get the lower speed working before the weekend. Damn 90°F days are pretty much here in SC.
Edit: Car intake temp hit 250°F while I was in line to pick my daughter up from school!
Edit: Car intake temp hit 250°F while I was in line to pick my daughter up from school!
#1397
#1398
Hopefully this resistor will fix the low speed fan.
What other problems could possibly cause that? I just replaced my coolant reservoir, so I just flushed the coolant system... Radiator dying? Leaking gasket at the manifold? Hmm...
#1399
Are you aware of the OBC Menu and what you are able to see? The link below describes how to see lots of info including the temperature of your coolant. Next the low speed fan should come on at 221 F or when the AC is turned on and reaches 114 PSI. It should cycle off at 214 F. The high speed should come on at 234 F and cycle off when a drop of 7 F is reached. Celsius numbers are 105/101, 112/108. If your high speed fan is not coming on at a coolant temperature of 234 F/112 C, you have an issue.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-obc-menu.html
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-obc-menu.html
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