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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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Low Speed Fan Resistor - we need solution

Hey folks - someone must be able to figure out a cost-effective DIY repair for the prone-to-fail low speed fan resistor. Mine has now failed, but I sure don't want to spend $200+ just for parts, assuming I can complete the replacement myself, since I'm sure that eventually someone is going to determine that its a $5.00 part that is the source of this grief. The next person to have their unit replaced PLEASE save the old one; I'll pay to have it shipped to me and I'll see what I can do.

Update 2/5/16: Any excellent summary of the solutions to which this thread has led over the years appears starting at post 1283 on page 52; I'll try to figure out how to embed the link.
 

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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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Very good idea.

Replacing the whole unit due to failure of a $5 part is insane... but it's part of German 'gineering.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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bite the little one.

Internet price of 127. two hours work ,all is well. just do it. it is not that hard.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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$127 - Where? MiniMania price is $350.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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EEEEEE BAY I live in HAwaii it came to $157. with shipping. looked identical made in taiwan .same casting marks even. you don't even have to take the water out of the rad or rad out of the car. it slips right in. you do have to take the front end plastic off though.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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Indistinguishable from the one you removed?
 
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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once it's in nobody will know. even has the little rubber flaps. It didn't Have the burnt resistor in it though .fan has been working great for 8 months so far. I 'm having other cooling issues now.the fan is doing extra duty
 
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 06:06 PM
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EEEEEE BAY I live in HAwaii it came to $157. with shipping. looked identical made in taiwan .same casting marks even. you don't even have to take the water out of the rad or rad out of the car. it slips right in. you do have to take the front end plastic off though.
Be careful about where parts are made (not to suggest that "Made in Germany" is bullet-proof) but parts from China and Taiwan have popped up all over Ebay. I just bought and returned a Chinese made oil pan for my VW New Beetle... the walls are so thin that a 1/2" size stone or nut moving at 65 MPH wouldn't have any problem putting a hole through it.

It's your car.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 06:09 PM
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Right now my every week or so my fan stays on and I found that tapping the relay makes it stop. What are the symptoms of a burnt resister pack. Highs stay on when AC is on but the fans shut down when you turn off the car?

The relay is still available separately but requires the fan assembly to be removed to get at it. And I don't want to do the work to replace the relay only to find that the resister pack is bad too.

Rich (Still reeling from a $1400 A/C compressor replacement)
 
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 06:50 PM
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there is no low speed to the fan when the resistor is blown.My car was used when i bough it and i never heard the fan run ever. On a cruise i noticed every one's fan was running except mine.thats when I found out there was two speeds.low speed is just the fan running through the resistor.high speed fan does run after turning the key off only when very hot.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 01:39 AM
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there is no low speed to the fan when the resistor is blown.My car was used when i bough it and i never heard the fan run ever. On a cruise i noticed every one's fan was running except mine.thats when I found out there was two speeds.low speed is just the fan running through the resistor. high speed fan does run after turning the key off only when very hot.
Curious... what model year is your Mini?

Mine is an '06 MCSc and I can differentiate the sound of low and high speed. However, even in high speed, the fan shuts down when the engine is turned Off... regardless of AC On or Off. So is there another variable for the fan to stay on (temporarily) after the engine is Off?
 
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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 02:06 AM
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I *think* he's got an 02/03 car if I remember correctly.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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Mine is an 03. It just has to be boiling over hot to run after the key is off.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 09:41 AM
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rockauto.com $80 shipped (not oem of course)
 

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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by pmfranke
Mine is an 03. It just has to be boiling over hot to run after the key is off.
Did this for me the first time at an AutoX with 85 degree ambient temps. Just like my Dad's BMW motorcycle...

Question, if the resistor itself is what breaks why not replace that? Is it installed in such a way that it is impossible to remove? If it is something like a surface mount resistor it is definitely possible to replace it with some very careful soldering.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 01:31 AM
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Question, if the resistor itself is what breaks why not replace that? Is it installed in such a way that it is impossible to remove? If it is something like a surface mount resistor it is definitely possible to replace it with some very careful soldering.
You spoke my mind!

Mini should really put 2 fans on the radiator.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 04:39 PM
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Aaron at MINI of Pensacola tested a used fan I bought from a guy on NAM for me. Low speed was burned out. He replaced a relay in the fan and low-speed started working. He said it would die again someday because if the original burned out, something's wrong in the 1st place (maybe fan is drawing too much current, who knows), but it'll work for a while anyway and a relay is MUCH cheaper than the whole unit.

Still need to learn more about that "always on" thing. Def. don't want that happening. On a side note, I don't think mine's (02 Cooper) EVER stayed on after the engine was shut off.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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SomeGuy: Thats why I offered to buy a dead unit, so that I could figure out whether the resistor is separately replaceable. No one has yet taken me up on my offer.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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I'll second the offer. I know a few really good EE's at my school.\

So: Looking for burnt out cooling fan assembly PM with offers.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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The resistor is built in, and hard wired to the fan motor. It is a cheap ceramic cylinder with a thin copper coil around . Exposed to the elements and vibrations it is no wonder that it fail so often. My replacement is OEM and failed again within 4 month. The fan has been running high speed only since then. No problem except the noise! I still have the first one and I'm looking into a solid state fix for this garb....e! I've got pics of this somewhere, Muummm? Every time this subject come to the surface I go . It has been years and BMW is cashing in! . BTW the part that brakes cannot be worth more than $.75!!!!
 
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by carbonized
The resistor is built in, and hard wired to the fan motor. It is a cheap ceramic cylinder with a thin copper coil around . Exposed to the elements and vibrations it is no wonder that it fail so often. My replacement is OEM and failed again within 4 month. The fan has been running high speed only since then. No problem except the noise! I still have the first one and I'm looking into a solid state fix for this garb....e! I've got pics of this somewhere, Muummm? Every time this subject come to the surface I go . It has been years and BMW is cashing in! . BTW the part that brakes cannot be worth more than $.75!!!!
Did you purchase your replacement from the dealer? If so, you should get a free replacement and a free installation at your dealer. I believe all parts have a 2-year warranty on them.

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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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yes I did. Warranty only if installed by them or authorized BMW tech!
 
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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Really? I replaced my radiator myself, and the new one sprung a leak. My dealership completely replaced and installed it free of charge.... I'd consider asking around a little more... possibly consider giving MINI USA a call.

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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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Just because it is "hard wired" doesnt mean it cant be replaced. I would seriously appreciate it if somebody would even post a picture of the damn thing.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Some Guy
Just because it is "hard wired" doesnt mean it cant be replaced. I would seriously appreciate it if somebody would even post a picture of the damn thing.
There's an old thread that may have had a picture but I can't seem to find it. If I remember correctly they even tried a Ford resister that was the same color (blue) and looked similar but it didn't work.

If someone can find that thread, it will be helpful not to go over the same stuff here and perhaps with new insights, we can fix this with some off the shelf part.

Rich
 
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