F55/F56 Anyone with the Dinan get a "Drive moderately" message?
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Anyone with the Dinan get a "Drive moderately" message?
I've had the Dinan tuner on my 2015 MCS for about three months now and have never had an issue. Love the difference. Anyway, on a short errand tonight I got a "Drive moderately" message on the center screen. Car didn't feel any different. Has anyone else seen this?
The car felt great on my drive home from work today (a much longer drive) and I didn't just fill up with cheap gas or something. I did refill the washer fluid but really?
I'll see if this comes back on my drive home. If it does, I guess I'm pulling my tuner and calling the dealer...
Thanks in advance.
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I had this happen recently after sitting over night in extreme cold. Went away next day. Dealer found two related codes 123423 and 120408.
Faults related to wastegate and subsequent control faults. Ran all test protocols and unable to verify issue. Codes cleared and Adeptation and nothing since.
I do not have Dinan, so I would not jump to that conclusion. Others have had this randomly happen to. Mine was in limp mode and would not rev above 3000RPM while it was on. This was at 2000 miles only. I'm a few hundred miles since.
Chalk it up to random computer glitch.
Faults related to wastegate and subsequent control faults. Ran all test protocols and unable to verify issue. Codes cleared and Adeptation and nothing since.
I do not have Dinan, so I would not jump to that conclusion. Others have had this randomly happen to. Mine was in limp mode and would not rev above 3000RPM while it was on. This was at 2000 miles only. I'm a few hundred miles since.
Chalk it up to random computer glitch.
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Well, it's more than just one random glitch and I'm pretty sure it's not the Dinan module.
On my way home from work today, I had some rough shifts and the return of that drivetrain error. Then, I got a couple rougher shifts and a chassis stabilization error:
At that point, I think I finally got to experience limp mode. To make things more fun, the car died at a stop light and refused to start for a couple of minutes. Thankfully, I did get it restarted and managed to get home.
I now have a loaner waiting for me at the dealer, a service appt for tomorrow and BMW roadside is on their way to bring me and the car in. Good times!
And, yes, while I'm sure this isn't the dinan, I did remove it to be safe.
On my way home from work today, I had some rough shifts and the return of that drivetrain error. Then, I got a couple rougher shifts and a chassis stabilization error:
At that point, I think I finally got to experience limp mode. To make things more fun, the car died at a stop light and refused to start for a couple of minutes. Thankfully, I did get it restarted and managed to get home.
I now have a loaner waiting for me at the dealer, a service appt for tomorrow and BMW roadside is on their way to bring me and the car in. Good times!
And, yes, while I'm sure this isn't the dinan, I did remove it to be safe.
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It didn't go away and the car was towed to the dealer this morning.
As of now I have no update.
On the upside, my loaner is a very nicely equipped Clubman S All4. While I prefer my hardtop, this is nice. My wife is smitten. Say what you will about minis getting bigger but the new Clubby is great.
As of now I have no update.
On the upside, my loaner is a very nicely equipped Clubman S All4. While I prefer my hardtop, this is nice. My wife is smitten. Say what you will about minis getting bigger but the new Clubby is great.
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Seriously, we all appreciate your updates on you car's driveability issue. Keep us posted on the findings and the fix. Thanks.
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my money is on software upgrade resolving this.
i got this about 4-5 times on my JB4....but dealer would not update because they would just blame the JB4...when i did the BBK they had to do a software upgrade...both errors have yet to return.]
P.S. if anyone else gets this, just clear the errors and drive the car to the dealer. IMO, this is a non-issue. just values that the ecu is reading that is above or below the threshold...almost like a BSOD on a windows computer.
i got this about 4-5 times on my JB4....but dealer would not update because they would just blame the JB4...when i did the BBK they had to do a software upgrade...both errors have yet to return.]
P.S. if anyone else gets this, just clear the errors and drive the car to the dealer. IMO, this is a non-issue. just values that the ecu is reading that is above or below the threshold...almost like a BSOD on a windows computer.
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I sure hope you're right. As of now, the car did some really bad things physically before it died but who knows why. The dealer has had the car for two days and hasn't told me anything yet. Given the way it was driving, I'm glad I had it towed.
Fingers are still cross for a quick fix.
Fingers are still cross for a quick fix.
it also happened to me. it is the the tuner that's causing it. if you remove the dinan, the problem goes away and the dealer won't be able to replicate it. you'll need to push them to do a software upgrade, at which point the dinan will play nice.
disclaimer: my experience is with the JB4...but generally speaking all the "tuners" (JB4, NM, Dinan, etc..) do the same thing in regards to "tricking" the ecu, so if i had this issue on the jb4 and you experienced it as well with dinan, then i'm very certain it's the same problem.
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I guess that makes me feel better...assuming I can get the right software updates from the dealer. The stalling wasn't fun but software can do horrible things.
How long did it take your mini to fail with your jb4? I've had the dinan installed for three months and this event was the first trouble I had. Just hoping to understand how I'll know if this is really fixed since I'd really like to put the dinan back on when I get the car back.
How long did it take your mini to fail with your jb4? I've had the dinan installed for three months and this event was the first trouble I had. Just hoping to understand how I'll know if this is really fixed since I'd really like to put the dinan back on when I get the car back.
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I guess that makes me feel better...assuming I can get the right software updates from the dealer. The stalling wasn't fun but software can do horrible things.
How long did it take your mini to fail with your jb4? I've had the dinan installed for three months and this event was the first trouble I had. Just hoping to understand how I'll know if this is really fixed since I'd really like to put the dinan back on when I get the car back.
How long did it take your mini to fail with your jb4? I've had the dinan installed for three months and this event was the first trouble I had. Just hoping to understand how I'll know if this is really fixed since I'd really like to put the dinan back on when I get the car back.
since the upgrade, it has not happened once.
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my money is on software upgrade resolving this.
i got this about 4-5 times on my JB4....but dealer would not update because they would just blame the JB4...when i did the BBK they had to do a software upgrade...both errors have yet to return.]
P.S. if anyone else gets this, just clear the errors and drive the car to the dealer. IMO, this is a non-issue. just values that the ecu is reading that is above or below the threshold...almost like a BSOD on a windows computer.
i got this about 4-5 times on my JB4....but dealer would not update because they would just blame the JB4...when i did the BBK they had to do a software upgrade...both errors have yet to return.]
P.S. if anyone else gets this, just clear the errors and drive the car to the dealer. IMO, this is a non-issue. just values that the ecu is reading that is above or below the threshold...almost like a BSOD on a windows computer.
Most likely fuel trims just went outside the proper "range" and DME failed to autocorrect it.
Could simply be bad gasoline or octane is insufficient for the mode you're in. Try lowering to Sport+ or Sport and fill up with top tier gas.
The software update wouldn't hurt either.
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Ironically, I had just filled up with 93 octane from Costco (top tier) before this all went down. Once I had the first error, I filled up again at Mobil (also 93 octane). The Dinan was in Sport+ for all of this.
None of my errors occurred at WOT; one was in light traffic and the other in no traffic at all.
The chassis error came when turning slowly from a stop sign and the car stalled out (and wouldn't restart) at a stoplight.
Hopefully, I'll have an update from the dealer tomorrow.
None of my errors occurred at WOT; one was in light traffic and the other in no traffic at all.
The chassis error came when turning slowly from a stop sign and the car stalled out (and wouldn't restart) at a stoplight.
Hopefully, I'll have an update from the dealer tomorrow.
Last edited by chipfiev; 01-29-2017 at 08:40 PM.
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Now there are 4 of those booster things for the F56, some guy posted that he got one called "Chiptuning" for his JCW. It's threads like this that make me not want to try one. I assume the OP took his off the car before it was towed. And I assume the dealer can't tell it was attached when the car died either. Something about fooling the car into giving more boost doesn't sound quite right to me. I'll opt for an ECU tune thank you.