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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 06:21 AM
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i wouldnt hold your breath either.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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Test Update #7: MegaMynes Header Results added.

Updated Post #7 with the results of the Megamini-Mynes Header. Looking to hit 250whp with the exhaust

WHP WTQE
234 184 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + Shrick Cam + E85 Fuel
239 189 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + Shrick Cam + E85 Fuel + MegaMynes Header (Stepped version)
243 193 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + Shrick Cam + E85 Fuel + MegaMynes Header (Straight version)

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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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Nice header and nice numbers!

How much?
 
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Nice header and nice numbers!

How much?
Totally and Great job guys
 
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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What numbers would we expect to see for this stuff if we're not running E85, just regular ol' 91 Octane gas?
 
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ninjlao
What numbers would we expect to see for this stuff if we're not running E85, just regular ol' 91 Octane gas?
Looking at post #5, the net gain from E85 was 23whp and 11wtqe; so subtract these numbers from the current state (243whp/193wtqe), you get approx 220whp/183wtqe ball park...

That's a very close estimate b/c we just tuned two customers yesterday and their numbers are right around the 218whp/182wtqe area;

Customer #1) 2004 MCS with 17%; Milltek, 550cc Bosch; Newman Cam, RMW header; 228whp/189wtqe

Customer #2) 2005 MCS with 550cc Bosch, 15%, CAI, Milltek, 222whp/175wtqe
 
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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Cool thanks. One more question: Do the injectors you're selling come with the connection adapter?

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Looking at post #5, the net gain from E85 was 23whp and 11wtqe; so subtract these numbers from the current state (243whp/193wtqe), you get approx 220whp/183wtqe ball park...

That's a very close estimate b/c we just tuned two customers yesterday and their numbers are right around the 218whp/182wtqe area;

Customer #1) 2004 MCS with 17%; Milltek, 550cc Bosch; Newman Cam, RMW header; 228whp/189wtqe

Customer #2) 2005 MCS with 550cc Bosch, 15%, CAI, Milltek, 222whp/175wtqe
 
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Partsman
Nice header and nice numbers!

How much?
For the SS304 Straight header w/ CAT: List $799; $699 Intro Special
For the Mild Steel Straight Header w/ CAT: List $699; $650 Intor Special

Options:
- Jet-Hot High Temp coating $150 per header (either SS or Mild Steel)
- Test Pipe with the Flex unit $175 each (either Stainless or Mild Steel).

We just finalized the design based on our testing, so the first batch will be ready after AMVIV. Feel free to PM me if you'd like to be placed on the Waiting List.

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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ninjlao
Cool thanks. One more question: Do the injectors you're selling come with the connection adapter?
Yes. The Injectors come with the adapter connectors as one complete set

Good question though, it reminds me of that insurance commercial where they sell you the popsicle w/o the stick.. We would never do that do any customer
 
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 03:49 PM
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Header came out nice Mike... if i was still supercharged..i would definately rock those..
 
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So if it was normal gas you would be at:

216whp/178ftlbs with the header + cat.

Or the below with E85 and E85 + the header + cat.

234 184 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + Shrick Cam + E85 Fuel
239 189 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + Shrick Cam + E85 Fuel + MegaMynes Header (Cat version)

So the header made 5whp and 5ftlbs.

Why make a non-cat version? The M45 cars are totally un-livable without a cat. Isn't running cat less and E85 an oxymoron ?

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Originally Posted by Longboard Mini
So if it was normal gas you would be at:

216whp/178ftlbs with the header + cat.

Or the below with E85 and E85 + the header + cat.

234 184 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + Shrick Cam + E85 Fuel
239 189 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + Shrick Cam + E85 Fuel + MegaMynes Header (Cat version)

So the header made 5whp and 5ftlbs.

Why make a non-cat version? The M45 cars are totally un-livable without a cat. Isn't running cat less and E85 an oxymoron ?

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243 193 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + Shrick Cam + E85 Fuel + MegaMynes Header (Straight version)
 
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Longboard Mini
So if it was normal gas you would be at:

216whp/178ftlbs with the header + cat.

Or the below with E85 and E85 + the header + cat.

234 184 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + Shrick Cam + E85 Fuel
239 189 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + Shrick Cam + E85 Fuel + MegaMynes Header (Cat version)

So the header made 5whp and 5ftlbs.

Why make a non-cat version? The M45 cars are totally un-livable without a cat. Isn't running cat less and E85 an oxymoron ?

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There are two versions of the same header:
1) 1.5-inch equal-length runners into a 4-1 collector w/ CAT (Straight version)

2) 1.5-inch runners stepped up to 1 5/8 runners - Equal-length w/ CAT (Stepped version)

LB, you misintepreted my meaning when you quoted me... that's not what i wrote originally. Both versions have the CAT. The Test Pipe is something a customer can add to our header and make it a "RACE HEADER" Instead of buying another complete 'race header' and paying another $800; or if there's a bad CAT, we can simply swap out the CAT section and not have to switch out the entire header just to change one component.

For those who race their Mini's and want to use C16 leaded gas, just swap out the CAT and you're done in 10 minutes. I wanted to name this a SMART Header, but i like the MegaMynes Header better
 
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@Mynes
243 193 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + Shrick Cam + E85 Fuel + MegaMynes Header (Straight version)
Now we're talkin Mike. Thats impressive because that is still the stock head right.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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Just wanted to point something out that's not 'evident' on the graphs: The "laziness" of the pedal is virtually eliminated... as soon as you press down on the gas pedal, the MINI lurches forward... fun stuff
 
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by checkmate2006
Now we're talkin Mike. Thats impressive because that is still the stock head right.
Yes, correct. All the modded parts are listed after the power/tqe numbers. It's not that much really. I can still do Intake, exhaust, ported head, ported sc, larger intercooler.

But after AMVIV, i'm going to try to wrap up on the testing and get her ready for the turbo upgrade. At this point, i'm looking at two more sets of tests:
- Nvidia Exhaust
- Another company's cam (which shall remained nameless for now).

I'm guessing that we can hit the 250whp mark with the addition of the exhaust. We shall see

For those attending AMVIV, we will have the headers on display. Feel free to drop by and check them out...
 
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Originally Posted by Mike@Mynes
The Test Pipe is something a customer can add to our header and make it a "RACE HEADER" Instead of buying another complete 'race header' and paying another $800; or if there's a bad CAT, we can simply swap out the CAT section and not have to switch out the entire header just to change one component.
That's pretty cool and makes a lot of sense.

Originally Posted by Mike@Mynes
For those who race their Mini's and want to use C16 leaded gas, just swap out the CAT and you're done in 10 minutes. I wanted to name this a SMART Header, but i like the MegaMynes Header better
MegaMynes does sound better...and with that, i'm guessing the good Dr had some input on the design?
Speaking of the design...why does the cylinder 4 primary make pretty much a straight shot to the collector, while the other three primaries have bends? Is that just to keep the equal length?
 
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Originally Posted by Mike@Mynes
Looking at post #5, the net gain from E85 was 23whp and 11wtqe; so subtract these numbers from the current state (243whp/193wtqe), you get approx 220whp/183wtqe ball park...

That's a very close estimate b/c we just tuned two customers yesterday and their numbers are right around the 218whp/182wtqe area;

Customer #1) 2004 MCS with 17%; Milltek, 550cc Bosch; Newman Cam, RMW header; 228whp/189wtqe

Customer #2) 2005 MCS with 550cc Bosch, 15%, CAI, Milltek, 222whp/175wtqe
This kind of baffles me...Customer #2 has a 15% instead of a 17% but he's only 6 WHP less than the guy with a Cam and Header?

:edit: saw the wheel torque difference.

"Horsepower Sells Motors, Torque wins Races" - Wise Engine Builder.
 
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Originally Posted by Mike@Mynes
Updated Post #7 with the results of the Megamini-Mynes Header. Looking to hit 250whp with the exhaust

WHP WTQE
234 184 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + Shrick Cam + E85 Fuel
239 189 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + Shrick Cam + E85 Fuel + MegaMynes Header (Stepped version)
243 193 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + Shrick Cam + E85 Fuel + MegaMynes Header (Straight version)

PM sent. I want the SS with cat.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@Mynes
There are two versions of the same header:
1) 1.5-inch equal-length runners into a 4-1 collector w/ CAT (Straight version)

2) 1.5-inch runners stepped up to 1 5/8 runners - Equal-length w/ CAT (Stepped version)

LB, you misintepreted my meaning when you quoted me... that's not what i wrote originally. Both versions have the CAT. The Test Pipe is something a customer can add to our header and make it a "RACE HEADER" Instead of buying another complete 'race header' and paying another $800; or if there's a bad CAT, we can simply swap out the CAT section and not have to switch out the entire header just to change one component.

For those who race their Mini's and want to use C16 leaded gas, just swap out the CAT and you're done in 10 minutes. I wanted to name this a SMART Header, but i like the MegaMynes Header better
I got it Mike thanks. So it's 220WHP . That's pretty unbelievable for a stock head. So E85 is like running race gas just a lot cheaper correct?

How come no pics of the stepped header? That's what made me thing one was with and one was without. So did Hubie design and built the headers or did you guys? Will the production units use one piece mandrel bent tubes?

You got me interested in the E85. I checked and unfortunately there are only 19 filling stations in California . You guys actually have 25 which is amazing considering the size and population difference between AZ VS Cali. Currently there are only 13 states selling E85. I don't have any stations even close to me unfortunately. But I like the idea and maybe some day if E85 grows It might be an option.

So what is the exhaust going to be like? Are you going to run E85 with the turbo set up Mike?

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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Partsman
That's pretty cool and makes a lot of sense.
MegaMynes does sound better...and with that, i'm guessing the good Dr had some input on the design?
Yes. The good Dr and us go way back and we work as a team on projects We give credit where credits are due.

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Speaking of the design...why does the cylinder 4 primary make pretty much a straight shot to the collector, while the other three primaries have bends? Is that just to keep the equal length?
Yep. Function over beauty. Equal-length is much more desirable than looking pretty b/c once you put it on, you can't really 'admire' it anymore. But with the function, you'll feel it every time you press the gas pedal. That's probably why it responds so well.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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E-85 is a must-have in my future, there's three stations very close to me right now. Do you have to use a laptop? It would be nice if there was a way to switch fuel maps instantly by just hitting a switch.
 
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Originally Posted by Deviant
E-85 is a must-have in my future, there's three stations very close to me right now. Do you have to use a laptop? It would be nice if there was a way to switch fuel maps instantly by just hitting a switch.
yep, laptop is need to switch maps. We will explore other handheld options down the road, but not at this time.

The MEMS can do the instant map switching, but not the stock ECU :( we wish it was that simple the Germans got that thing on lock!!!
 
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Does E85 actual give more power? Why is it you guys use E85 fuel?
 
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Originally Posted by Longboard Mini
I got it Mike thanks. So it's 220WHP . That's pretty unbelievable for a stock head. So E85 is like running race gas just a lot cheaper correct?
Yep, it's like running race gas at regular gas price... can't beat it.

Originally Posted by Longboard Mini
How come no pics of the stepped header? That's what made me thing one was with and one was without. So did Hubie design and built the headers or did you guys? Will the production units use one piece mandrel bent tubes?
We all put our brains together and came up with the design and ideas. We are building the header b/c Hubie is busy enough with his project :D The production will be mandrel bent tubes. Will have a production unit on display at AMVIV.

Originally Posted by Longboard Mini
You got me interested in the E85. I checked and unfortunately there are only 19 filling stations in California . You guys actually have 25 which is amazing considering the size and population difference between AZ VS Cali. Currently there are only 13 states selling E85. I don't have any stations even close to me unfortunately. But I like the idea and maybe some day if E85 grows It might be an option.

So what is the exhaust going to be like? Are you going to run E85 with the turbo set up Mike?

Longboard
we are lucky to have a few E85 stations around the shop. Believe it or not, there's quite a bit of them in Vegas as well. I'll be driving mine to vegas on E85 and get some MPG reading. I haven't been able to get much of any MPG between punching it on the streets and dyno runs... i just can't help it b/c the car is sooo much more fun to drive with the extra hp... I think i'll stick with E85 for a while longer...

cheers.
 
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