Drivetrain Mynes R53 parts testing results (an upgrade "guide" to your MCS?)
Your MPG isn't directly related to the injector size. The fuel management (tune) is what will change that for you.
Get your car optimized for those injectors and your fuel mileage will return as long as your driving habits and other associated modifications do not change.
Side-note: After tuning with Mynes, I actually get better MPG.
Get your car optimized for those injectors and your fuel mileage will return as long as your driving habits and other associated modifications do not change.
Side-note: After tuning with Mynes, I actually get better MPG.
I have 550cc injectors and a Mynes Tune, haven't changed my driving habits at all and I am averaging 40-60 more miles per tank. Sometimes more if its more highway. Honestly I don't go by my OBC MPG because I think it lies when it says 33 avg. mpg but I go by how many miles Ive traveled until I have to fill about 12 gallons. It has gone up from about 300 to about 350
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I have 550cc injectors and a Mynes Tune, haven't changed my driving habits at all and I am averaging 40-60 more miles per tank. Sometimes more if its more highway. Honestly I don't go by my OBC MPG because I think it lies when it says 33 avg. mpg but I go by how many miles Ive traveled until I have to fill about 12 gallons. It has gone up from about 300 to about 350
How does the spray pattern of the injectors come into play? I though MINI injectors had a special spray, and when people switch to different injectors, it would not be the best results... Was this theory a joke, or do these injectors you sell not present this problem?
I remember hearing something about MINI oem injectors are known as dual cone where there is a 2 jets in concentric of eachother creating 2 cones of spray.
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So just to clarify it for me..........
The only reason to get larger injectors is if you plan on doing more the "basic" mods (pulley, CAI, exhaust).
Your remote tunes are going to be "canned" tunes depending on mods?
You have the same ability to tweak the traction control also.
The only reason to get larger injectors is if you plan on doing more the "basic" mods (pulley, CAI, exhaust).
Your remote tunes are going to be "canned" tunes depending on mods?
You have the same ability to tweak the traction control also.
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So just to clarify it for me..........
The only reason to get larger injectors is if you plan on doing more the "basic" mods (pulley, CAI, exhaust).
Your remote tunes are going to be "canned" tunes depending on mods?
You have the same ability to tweak the traction control also.
The only reason to get larger injectors is if you plan on doing more the "basic" mods (pulley, CAI, exhaust).
Your remote tunes are going to be "canned" tunes depending on mods?
You have the same ability to tweak the traction control also.
We can go into alot of technical things to use a bigger injector even for basic mods. Your ECU injector drivers would like it too, less duty cycles at higher RPM for sure keeps them cooler. Secondly, you would have enough fuel even for basic mods and advanced mods. So fuel management is done and out of the way!
The remote tune... we are just preparing for all sizes of injectors, at least having a base scale for these larger sizes of injectors. So if you have 380, 400, 440, 465, 500, 525, 550, 565, 580, 600, 620, 650, 680, 700, 720, 750 after that the ECU says **** you! LOL! It would be easier to remote tune a customer's car with these base maps done. Our remote tune, you would be able to datalog data faster than other loggers out there for the MINI. The end user would do a couple of pulls on the dyno, send us the log and we can adjust parameters by the logging info. I am currently working on the datalogging software to even have a on-board dyno using the ECU data that Siemens have already wrote by calculating the torque and power the engine is actually making (hint: DSC/ASC/Traction Control). Yes that code is already in each and every MINI ECU right now. Just having to figure out how Siemens interpret the data is the challenging part, but we are working on. So this data would even give us a better understanding adjusting parameters on a remote tune by seeing the horsepower and torque curves in the datalogging software.
Third question about traction control. Yes we can adjust traction control tables, just forgot to put this function on our website of all the parameters that we can adjust them. Siemens software only allow an adjustment of 20% with DSC function on. Any more adjustment than that, triggers EML/Limp mode. So the best solution for traction control is by turning the function off using your right hand index finger on the switch...lol
So just to clarify it for me..........
The only reason to get larger injectors is if you plan on doing more the "basic" mods (pulley, CAI, exhaust).
Your remote tunes are going to be "canned" tunes depending on mods?
You have the same ability to tweak the traction control also.
The only reason to get larger injectors is if you plan on doing more the "basic" mods (pulley, CAI, exhaust).
Your remote tunes are going to be "canned" tunes depending on mods?
You have the same ability to tweak the traction control also.
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We can go into alot of technical things to use a bigger injector even for basic mods. Your ECU injector drivers would like it too, less duty cycles at higher RPM for sure keeps them cooler. Secondly, you would have enough fuel even for basic mods and advanced mods. So fuel management is done and out of the way!
The remote tune... we are just preparing for all sizes of injectors, at least having a base scale for these larger sizes of injectors. So if you have 380, 400, 440, 465, 500, 525, 550, 565, 580, 600, 620, 650, 680, 700, 720, 750 after that the ECU says **** you! LOL! It would be easier to remote tune a customer's car with these base maps done. Our remote tune, you would be able to datalog data faster than other loggers out there for the MINI. The end user would do a couple of pulls on the dyno, send us the log and we can adjust parameters by the logging info. I am currently working on the datalogging software to even have a on-board dyno using the ECU data that Siemens have already wrote by calculating the torque and power the engine is actually making (hint: DSC/ASC/Traction Control). Yes that code is already in each and every MINI ECU right now. Just having to figure out how Siemens interpret the data is the challenging part, but we are working on. So this data would even give us a better understanding adjusting parameters on a remote tune by seeing the horsepower and torque curves in the datalogging software.
Third question about traction control. Yes we can adjust traction control tables, just forgot to put this function on our website of all the parameters that we can adjust them. Siemens software only allow an adjustment of 20% with DSC function on. Any more adjustment than that, triggers EML/Limp mode. So the best solution for traction control is by turning the function off using your right hand index finger on the switch...lol
The remote tune... we are just preparing for all sizes of injectors, at least having a base scale for these larger sizes of injectors. So if you have 380, 400, 440, 465, 500, 525, 550, 565, 580, 600, 620, 650, 680, 700, 720, 750 after that the ECU says **** you! LOL! It would be easier to remote tune a customer's car with these base maps done. Our remote tune, you would be able to datalog data faster than other loggers out there for the MINI. The end user would do a couple of pulls on the dyno, send us the log and we can adjust parameters by the logging info. I am currently working on the datalogging software to even have a on-board dyno using the ECU data that Siemens have already wrote by calculating the torque and power the engine is actually making (hint: DSC/ASC/Traction Control). Yes that code is already in each and every MINI ECU right now. Just having to figure out how Siemens interpret the data is the challenging part, but we are working on. So this data would even give us a better understanding adjusting parameters on a remote tune by seeing the horsepower and torque curves in the datalogging software.
Third question about traction control. Yes we can adjust traction control tables, just forgot to put this function on our website of all the parameters that we can adjust them. Siemens software only allow an adjustment of 20% with DSC function on. Any more adjustment than that, triggers EML/Limp mode. So the best solution for traction control is by turning the function off using your right hand index finger on the switch...lol
however, i must add that MY best solution for traction control is slapping a turbo on the damn engine.
DOT approved Drag Radials can handle all sorts of power and torque. I know a few cars that drive daily with them in the summer.
You guys get much better gas mileage than I do, although the majority of my driving is in the city.
I'd PM this, but, I figured others would like to know as well. What's the price on the 550cc injectors and for a remote tune? Hopefully be able to get tuned over the summer.
I'd PM this, but, I figured others would like to know as well. What's the price on the 550cc injectors and for a remote tune? Hopefully be able to get tuned over the summer.
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I would love to say that this is true, but unfortunatley you still have to have a device to control how the power is fed into 1st gear to get good traction on a Mini on drag radials
You guys get much better gas mileage than I do, although the majority of my driving is in the city.
I'd PM this, but, I figured others would like to know as well. What's the price on the 550cc injectors and for a remote tune? Hopefully be able to get tuned over the summer.
I'd PM this, but, I figured others would like to know as well. What's the price on the 550cc injectors and for a remote tune? Hopefully be able to get tuned over the summer.
cheers.
its called ur right foot buddy
Yup, everyday I am paying off the Tune by saving money at the pump... can't go wrong when things pay themselves off
Did I mention I get much better performance while having this gift of better gas mileage as well? And I know the laws here in Arizona are nowhere near as strict as the ones in other states, but I just passed Emissions with flying colors...
Did I mention I get much better performance while having this gift of better gas mileage as well? And I know the laws here in Arizona are nowhere near as strict as the ones in other states, but I just passed Emissions with flying colors...
Yup, everyday I am paying off the Tune by saving money at the pump... can't go wrong when things pay themselves off
Did I mention I get much better performance while having this gift of better gas mileage as well? And I know the laws here in Arizona are nowhere near as strict as the ones in other states, but I just passed Emissions with flying colors...
Did I mention I get much better performance while having this gift of better gas mileage as well? And I know the laws here in Arizona are nowhere near as strict as the ones in other states, but I just passed Emissions with flying colors...
That would mean you're averaging about...4-5 miles per gallon?
But wait... there's more...
Last edited by AZblackOUT; Mar 12, 2009 at 04:28 PM. Reason: popcorn power
We can go into alot of technical things to use a bigger injector even for basic mods. Your ECU injector drivers would like it too, less duty cycles at higher RPM for sure keeps them cooler. Secondly, you would have enough fuel even for basic mods and advanced mods. So fuel management is done and out of the way!
The remote tune... we are just preparing for all sizes of injectors, at least having a base scale for these larger sizes of injectors. So if you have 380, 400, 440, 465, 500, 525, 550, 565, 580, 600, 620, 650, 680, 700, 720, 750 after that the ECU says **** you! LOL! It would be easier to remote tune a customer's car with these base maps done. Our remote tune, you would be able to datalog data faster than other loggers out there for the MINI. The end user would do a couple of pulls on the dyno, send us the log and we can adjust parameters by the logging info. I am currently working on the datalogging software to even have a on-board dyno using the ECU data that Siemens have already wrote by calculating the torque and power the engine is actually making (hint: DSC/ASC/Traction Control). Yes that code is already in each and every MINI ECU right now. Just having to figure out how Siemens interpret the data is the challenging part, but we are working on. So this data would even give us a better understanding adjusting parameters on a remote tune by seeing the horsepower and torque curves in the datalogging software.
Third question about traction control. Yes we can adjust traction control tables, just forgot to put this function on our website of all the parameters that we can adjust them. Siemens software only allow an adjustment of 20% with DSC function on. Any more adjustment than that, triggers EML/Limp mode. So the best solution for traction control is by turning the function off using your right hand index finger on the switch...lol
The remote tune... we are just preparing for all sizes of injectors, at least having a base scale for these larger sizes of injectors. So if you have 380, 400, 440, 465, 500, 525, 550, 565, 580, 600, 620, 650, 680, 700, 720, 750 after that the ECU says **** you! LOL! It would be easier to remote tune a customer's car with these base maps done. Our remote tune, you would be able to datalog data faster than other loggers out there for the MINI. The end user would do a couple of pulls on the dyno, send us the log and we can adjust parameters by the logging info. I am currently working on the datalogging software to even have a on-board dyno using the ECU data that Siemens have already wrote by calculating the torque and power the engine is actually making (hint: DSC/ASC/Traction Control). Yes that code is already in each and every MINI ECU right now. Just having to figure out how Siemens interpret the data is the challenging part, but we are working on. So this data would even give us a better understanding adjusting parameters on a remote tune by seeing the horsepower and torque curves in the datalogging software.
Third question about traction control. Yes we can adjust traction control tables, just forgot to put this function on our website of all the parameters that we can adjust them. Siemens software only allow an adjustment of 20% with DSC function on. Any more adjustment than that, triggers EML/Limp mode. So the best solution for traction control is by turning the function off using your right hand index finger on the switch...lol
So you got me interested in your remote tune Jason.
Is the data logger something the customers needs to purchase or are you sending it out to remote tune? If it something they need to purchase what is the cost going to be?
So once you have the data logger you go down to your local dyno, do two pulls while logging the data, down load the data into a computer and then send you the data. You then based on that data write a tune and send it back to the customer. The customer then loads the tune into ?? and then flash's the tune into the car. The customer then does another pull to see his results. Correct? Will the customer be able to coordinate this with you so that he can do this whole process in one visit to the dyno?
With the data from two dyno pulls are you able to really dial in the tune with a single flash? Or will you need to do multiple writings and subsequent flashes after seeing how the car reacts from each flash?
What are you charging to write the remote tunes?
I can only imagine that when you do a tune on "your" dyno it isn't done in a single flash.
I know you come to SoCal and do tunes for Hubie. What are you charging for a real dyno tune and how long do they take?
Sorry for so many Q's J
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Post #5 Updated: Tuned the Mini on E85, and gained +23WHP; +11WTQE.
1st MINI in the USA tuned on E85 Fuel!!!
WHP WTQE (Mod list)
171 149 Bone Stock (untuned) = And "YES", we got lucky with our 06 MCS, we have a strong motor
191 153 Bone Stock w/ Custom-Tuned
201 164 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + "One-Ball"
211 173 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + Shrick Cam
234 184 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + Shrick Cam + E85 Fuel
1st MINI in the USA tuned on E85 Fuel!!!
WHP WTQE (Mod list)
171 149 Bone Stock (untuned) = And "YES", we got lucky with our 06 MCS, we have a strong motor
191 153 Bone Stock w/ Custom-Tuned
201 164 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + "One-Ball"
211 173 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + Shrick Cam
234 184 15% Pulley with Bosch 550cc Injectors + Shrick Cam + E85 Fuel