Solo 245/40/15 Hoosier A6 anyone?

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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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245/40/15 Hoosier A6 anyone?

https://www.northamericanmotoring.com...64#post1264564

If you want this size, all we gotta do is write a one line email to jaspeer@hoosiertire.com and tell him this size would be a huge benefit to you, when they get enough response, they will build the tire.

thanks!

Craig Wilcox

Below is Hoosiers response to my email requesting this size..............

Craig,
Thanks for your input. We will consider this as we plan for 2007.
Customer input is very valuable to us, so we appreciate your suggestion.
Currently we do not have any plan yet to offer a new 15" size, but this
may change if the market demands it.
Have a nice holiday season.
- Jeff Speer, HRT
 
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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You mean like this one?

http://www.949racing.com/
 
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mitchman
You mean like this one?

http://www.949racing.com/
Yes, just as wide or slightly wider, except, a Hoosier A6 since Hoosier makes the best darn DOT R-Compound tires on the planet IMO. For the tire pictured on your thread, I sure would like to see that tire for STX class though if it was 140 treadwear or higher. :-) I emailed Avon with zero response about this tire, they must not really care to sell tires. lol
 
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 06:59 AM
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Hoosier, Smoozer......I wish it came in a Kumho V710. hehehe
 
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mitchman
Hoosier, Smoozer......I wish it came in a Kumho V710. hehehe
Why would you want to go slower on a non-american made tire though?

The way I see it is, if there is a faster American made option, its a no-brainer. If the Hoosier was slower, I'd be on V710's.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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Hahaha! Sounds like you're a die-hard Hoosier guy! No problem! I like Hoosier's, but my wallet says differently.

I need to try the A6's, the last Hoosiers I ran were S03's (maybe SO4's, I can't remember)

But I agree, tires a HUGE when it comes to getting the most performance out of a car.

What should we talk about next?
 
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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The only issue I have with the Hoosier A6s is there durability compared to the 710s. Several autox'ers around here that used them last year burned through most of the usable tread in just a couple of events. Where as on my other car I got close to 150 runs over several months before cording the 710s. Other than that I've heard they have great grip.

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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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Dudley - Was that in a G-Stock car or STX (with camber plates). I'm really hoping I can get at least 100 good runs out of a set of V710's.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by fritznw
The only issue I have with the Hoosier A6s is there durability compared to the 710s. Several autox'ers around here that used them last year burned through most of the usable tread in just a couple of events. Where as on my other car I got close to 150 runs over several months before cording the 710s. Other than that I've heard they have great grip.

Dudley
Are you sure they were A6's? I could see the OLD Hoosier A3S04's only getting a couple events as well as maybe the A3S05's getting 9-10 events with 40 or so runs, but, the A6's don't have the same outside edge cording issues, they seem to hold up MUCH better, more along the lines of the V710's except not quite as good. At 4 runs per local event, I would guess I could get a solid 15+ events out of a set of A6's. What kind of surface were those guys only getting a handful of runs out of the A6's? Where were they cording that quickly? Noone that I have seen has had this issue on the A6's, now the OLD tires had bigtime longevity issues but not the NEW A6's. :-)
 
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fritznw
The only issue I have with the Hoosier A6s is there durability compared to the 710s. Several autox'ers around here that used them last year burned through most of the usable tread in just a couple of events. Where as on my other car I got close to 150 runs over several months before cording the 710s. Other than that I've heard they have great grip.

Dudley
I just noticed you said "last year", that would have been the A3S04's or A3S05's, they are a completely different tire from the A6, even though they look the same. Don't be deceived by the similar look.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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I emailed jaspeer asking about the availablility of 245/40/15's. Hope it helps!
 
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mitchman
I emailed jaspeer asking about the availablility of 245/40/15's. Hope it helps!
Excellent, that is wonderful, every email definitely helps, they are on the verge of going ahead with production, if he comes in tomorrow and he has 20 more emails, I'm sure he will be overwhelmed and produce the tire for us.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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I hope you're right. But I gotta say.......I can't remember the last time Hoosier has added a new size to their 15" line up.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mitchman
I hope you're right. But I gotta say.......I can't remember the last time Hoosier has added a new size to their 15" line up.
I definitely hear you on that, I'm optimistically skeptical.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 08:02 AM
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I just noticed you said "last year", that would have been the A3S04's or A3S05's, they are a completely different tire from the A6, even though they look the same. Don't be deceived by the similar look.
This past summer at Packwood Prosolo, Stacey Moleker had A6s on his SRT-4. He and his wife were both driving on them and by the time Laura fininshed the ladies challenge, Stacey said he felt half the tread was gone, he noticed by the end of his runs that the grip was starting to go away. I made a point of asking him about the A6s because the 16" 710 option for our SRT-4 ACRs is not optimal vs. the A6. That's just one opinion though.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by mitchman
Dudley - Was that in a G-Stock car or STX (with camber plates). I'm really hoping I can get at least 100 good runs out of a set of V710's.
The 710s were on my DS SRT-4 ACR with about 1.5 neg camber. Not enough camber to have even wear across the section, so I had them flipped on the rims at about 75-100 runs. We have Hankook RS-2 Z212s on the Mini in STX.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by fritznw
This past summer at Packwood Prosolo, Stacey Moleker had A6s on his SRT-4. He and his wife were both driving on them and by the time Laura fininshed the ladies challenge, Stacey said he felt half the tread was gone, he noticed by the end of his runs that the grip was starting to go away. I made a point of asking him about the A6s because the 16" 710 option for our SRT-4 ACRs is not optimal vs. the A6. That's just one opinion though.
So, with 12 runs each plus all her challenge runs, there were roughly 30 runs. I would expect half tread to be expected. Heck, if they were A3S04's they would have been corded. :-) A3S05's would have been close to corded. Also to note, course/surface has a lot to do with wear, on my DSP JCW Mini, we only were able to get 12 runs at the National Tour and 24 runs at the Walnut Ridge Prosolo this past season and one local event with 2 drivers for a total of 44 runs and they were finished.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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So, with 12 runs each plus all her challenge runs, there were roughly 30 runs. I would expect half tread to be expected. Heck, if they were A3S04's they would have been corded. :-) A3S05's would have been close to corded. Also to note, course/surface has a lot to do with wear, on my DSP JCW Mini, we only were able to get 12 runs at the National Tour and 24 runs at the Walnut Ridge Prosolo this past season and one local event with 2 drivers for a total of 44 runs and they were finished.
Wow, that makes for an expensive season. I guess you need to win those challenges so you can get free tires with the Hoosier contingency.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 03:28 AM
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Actually Hoosier is now giving contingency for placing 1st or 2nd in class in addition to the challenges, so, if you are good enough to place 1st or 2nd, you won't spend a dime on tire use for even Prosolo's, actually, you could actually accumulate tires since with 2 drivers, you could win 4 tires for class wins plus a possible additional 8 tires if the Moelekers were to win the ladies and open challenge. Thats a total of 3 full sets of tires from one event. :-) Heck, for National Tours, you should be able to get 6-7 strong events on the Hoosiers, and, they now pay 2 tires for 1st and 1 tire for 2nd. Kumho pays cash, so, its basically a wash between the two tire companies so I guess each competitor needs to decide which tire better fits their driving style. I decided to go with Hoosier since its a faster tire for my driving style and the A6 is good for tread wear now that the cording issue has been resolved. Hoosier is a class company that I really appreciate dealing with, they played a large roll in our National Championship for 06. Hoosier Racing Tires Rock! I'll never go back to Kumho unless they start shipping me free tires. lol

Your right though, if you have multiple drivers and don't win any contingency, it would get expensive.

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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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I got a response from Hoosier:

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Mitch,
Thanks for your input. We value our customer's suggestions and will
consider offering this tire for 2007. I will be doing some research on
the need for this size and the cost to produce it.
Thanks for taking the time to contact us.

- Jeff Speer, HRT
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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so let's say they make this... You think you'll see guys squeezing these onto 15x5.5 wheels for HS? That'd be something, but I have seen Robert Carpenters old CRX with 225s on 5" wide wheels. So this wouldn't be much more of a stretch
 
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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Hahaha! I think Craig was thinking of DSP for these.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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Yeah, I'd definitely use them for DSP. Not sure if they would clear the suspension parts in HS, although, I'd certainly try if I had an HS Mini, at least on the front. :-)
 
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