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Old May 5, 2018 | 02:01 PM
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Will the 2013 Mini Coupe be a classic??

I recently traded in my 2013 Mini Coupe, Chili Red with silver top, 6 speed trans. with 76K miles. It had some issues - needed struts, front end alignment, small oil leak in engine, hatch would pop when passenger door unlocked. Has new tires and brakes. I bought a 3rd generation Mini Cooper S, 6 speed, black. This is my 3rd Mini and loved them.

It is still at the dealership and price reduced 3 times, am I crazy to think of buying it back in hopes it will be a classic, collectable car in the future?

What are your thoughts?
 
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Old May 5, 2018 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by martiloga
I recently traded in my 2013 Mini Coupe, Chili Red with silver top, 6 speed trans. with 76K miles. It had some issues - needed struts, front end alignment, small oil leak in engine, hatch would pop when passenger door unlocked. Has new tires and brakes. I bought a 3rd generation Mini Cooper S, 6 speed, black. This is my 3rd Mini and loved them.

It is still at the dealership and price reduced 3 times, am I crazy to think of buying it back in hopes it will be a classic, collectable car in the future?

What are your thoughts?
All cars can become classics in 25 - 35 years or so.
 
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Old May 5, 2018 | 09:15 PM
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Old May 5, 2018 | 10:17 PM
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Classic maybe, investment to make money - not likely.
 
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Old May 6, 2018 | 05:31 AM
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An old Mini will definitely collect your spare $
 
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Old May 7, 2018 | 01:25 PM
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There's a reason they didn't sell well and got discontinued after 4 years. I love mine but I'm sure I'm not gonna get much back from the $40k I paid for it lol. We'll be 6 feet under by the time the car's a classic.
 
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Old May 7, 2018 | 03:13 PM
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We'll be 6 feet under by the time the car's a classic.
My comment which I edited 3 or 4 times then deleted addressed that very fact. My suggestion was to strip it down, put it back into concours condition, bury it under a mountain of hay and will it to the grandchildren.
 
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Old May 7, 2018 | 04:53 PM
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The definition of "Classic Car" varies by state, but it originally meant a pre- World War two car of historical interest and worth preserving or restoring rather than scrapping.

Vintage cars are pre- WW 1 cars.

Pre-war Duesenbergs, Cadillacs, Bentleys, Rolls Royces, etc. are classic cars, anything newer than WWII is not.

Maybe they should come up with another name for cars built after WWII.
 
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Old May 7, 2018 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DneprDave
The definition of "Classic Car" varies by state, but it originally meant a pre- World War two car of historical interest and worth preserving or restoring rather than scrapping.

Vintage cars are pre- WW 1 cars.

Pre-war Duesenbergs, Cadillacs, Bentleys, Rolls Royces, etc. are classic cars, anything newer than WWII is not.

Maybe they should come up with another name for cars built after WWII.
There is plenty of post WWII Classics and some are Milestone as the 1949 Buick Riviera, 1953 Corvette and original Mini but there is also a name for the others ........ they are called Special Interest Autos.

In my opinion, the only significance is the original Coupe Concept Car was a good design exercise on paper that became a disaster on the market because not adapted to the expectations of the buyers. The same prevails for the Roadster.

They will be remembered as the odd Mini with parts very hard to find.
 
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Old May 10, 2018 | 08:59 AM
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The JCW Coupe is probably the fastest stock Mini on a racetrack ever built. Why? Because it shares the same stiffened chassis and lowered COG as a the convertible Roadster with stiffened body as well, and it has a top. It's the same size as the HB but reportedly handles better on a track. And it's fast. I've never had mine on a track though.
 
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Old May 10, 2018 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TheBigNewt
The JCW Coupe is probably the fastest stock Mini on a racetrack ever built. Why? Because it shares the same stiffened chassis and lowered COG as a the convertible Roadster with stiffened body as well, and it has a top. It's the same size as the HB but reportedly handles better on a track. And it's fast. I've never had mine on a track though.
Unlikely. What about the GP or the GP2?
 
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Old May 10, 2018 | 10:29 AM
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Unlikely. What about the GP or the GP2?
Well I don't count those as "stock" Minis. They were special limited edition racing editions with modded suspensions and engines. You take a JCW Coupe with a Stage 1 tune (like mine), mod/lower the suspension with some racing wheels/tires and it would compare favorably on a track with a GP I bet. I bought my Coupe off the lot at Scottsdale Mini. I doubt dealers sold GP's off the lots.
 
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Old May 10, 2018 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TheBigNewt
Well I don't count those as "stock" Minis. They were special limited edition racing editions with modded suspensions and engines. You take a JCW Coupe with a Stage 1 tune (like mine), mod/lower the suspension with some racing wheels/tires and it would compare favorably on a track with a GP I bet. I bought my Coupe off the lot at Scottsdale Mini. I doubt dealers sold GP's off the lots.
Well, OK - but they are in fact stock Mini's
 
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Old May 10, 2018 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBigNewt
I doubt dealers sold GP's off the lots.
Yes, GP's were allocated to dealers and sold off the lot. Actually many of them sat on dealer lots for many months (even the limited production GP1 took a year to sell out).
 
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Old May 10, 2018 | 12:45 PM
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Yes, GP's were allocated to dealers and sold off the lot. Actually many of them sat on dealer lots for many months (even the limited production GP1 took a year to sell out).
The GP was a little before my time here I think. Was the suspension modded/lowered? What more did they do to the engine, I assume it was a stock JCW turbocharger/tuned engine like I have. Not sure what else was done to a GP other than paint and spoiler cosmetics. My car has the "stock" sport suspension (mainly ASBs not lowered), and a spoiler, and the aftermarket tune adds probably another 40 hp so it's maybe 240hp.
 
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Old May 10, 2018 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by rkw
Yes, GP's were allocated to dealers and sold off the lot. Actually many of them sat on dealer lots for many months (even the limited production GP1 took a year to sell out).
They didn't sell because they were overpriced with delete standard features that made them not a good deal.

Who buys a daily driver just because it has 6 piston front brake calipers and a missing rear seat?
 
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Old May 11, 2018 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dube53
They didn't sell because they were overpriced with delete standard features that made them not a good deal.

Who buys a daily driver just because it has 6 piston front brake calipers and a missing rear seat?
On the GP forum there were some links to the specs of the 2013. Same JCW engine (218 HP), a tad bigger brake unit, upgraded suspension (manually adjustable), Recaro seats (I have them), I think a fixed rear spoiler (Coupe's goes up/down). But it didn't say how much more they cost than the JCW (about $30k).
 
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Old May 12, 2018 | 04:10 AM
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Thanks for the replies

Thank you so much for all the replies.
 
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Old May 12, 2018 | 04:59 AM
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Try out some twisties on the Appalachians and then decide for yourself.

My money is on classic over cute.
 
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Old May 13, 2018 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dube53
They will be remembered as the odd Mini with parts very hard to find.
Most of the parts interchange with other 2nd gens.
 
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Old May 13, 2018 | 06:55 PM
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Most of the parts interchange with other 2nd gens.
I mean body parts, as panels, glass, spoilers, cabin trim ..... otherwise this is the econobox Mini parts bin that can be find anywhere.
 
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Old May 20, 2018 | 08:09 PM
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Will the 2013 Mini Coupe be a classic??

I could be crazy but... every time I get behind the wheel of my '13 coupe I wonder, "Why doesn't everyone want to drive a coupe?" Of course, nobody ever answers me so I guess I'm not crazy after all. Still, I wonder. (About the car, not about being crazy.) I've owned quite a few automobiles and this is, by far, my favorite. Here's to a car that I will always consider to be a classic.
 
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Old May 24, 2018 | 08:35 PM
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Yeah, all of us Coupe owners are a bit nuts. I've got mine paid off now so I'm going to maintain it at least for as long as it takes me to pay off my student loans. Classic? ehh, probably not. An oddity, certainly - but that's why I bought mine.
I don't see the weird coupe-only parts being much of a problem, really. Most of the stuff that's going to break is common with the other cars of its generation.
 
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Old May 26, 2018 | 02:54 PM
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Just over 100 in the uk, jcw roadster n14

Oddly I cannot find a coupe listing
 
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Old May 29, 2018 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by blue al
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicl...operworks#!tax

Just over 100 in the uk, jcw roadster n14

Oddly I cannot find a coupe listing
I think they only sold around 1000 Coupes/yr total in the US the last couple of years. Maybe 10% were JCWs?
 
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