R56 60-0?
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stopping distance
Road and track put it at 122 feet from 60 MPH. See the attached
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...pockets_dp.pdf
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...pockets_dp.pdf
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I wouldn't be so concerned with distance. I would be more concerned with brake fade.
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MINI is a lighter car that boasts good performance. Brake fade is something people talk about at the tracks. IMO, for the the everyday life situations, how far you travel after applying the brakes in an emergency situation is more critical. And that is why the car magazines print stopping distance. They comment on brake fade if they testdrive the car on the track because some readers expect them to. If the mag. writers only did on-street testdrives, some or many people won't take that particular mag seriously. What % of MINI owners go on the track?
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MINI is a lighter car that boasts good performance. Brake fade is something people talk about at the tracks. IMO, for the the everyday life situations, how far you travel after applying the brakes in an emergency situation is more critical. And that is why the car magazines print stopping distance. They comment on brake fade if they testdrive the car on the track because some readers expect them to. If the mag. writers only did on-street testdrives, some or many people won't take that particular mag seriously. What % of MINI owners go on the track? In autoX, track pads don't work because the pads don't heat up as much. So the initial bite is more important for autoX and street.
If the R56 distance is more than the Mazda and it has the JCW brakes ... not so good if thats important. I have no idea what a really great number may be but I do remember, for example, MR2 numbers were 98 feet. I only remember because it was one of the few cars to break 100 feet.
If you drive hot in the twisties, brake fade can be very real ... and not fun.
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Did that article mention brake fade on the MINI as a problem? Anyone have fade problems at the Dragon? Or is it still too early for that?
Doesn't the braking distance have a lot to do with the tires? If you look at the tests on tirerack.com you find considerable variation between tires on one car.
Doesn't the braking distance have a lot to do with the tires? If you look at the tests on tirerack.com you find considerable variation between tires on one car.
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If we are talking about one 60-0 stop and not repeated stops; there is zero performance advantage in the larger R56 (or R53 JCW) brakes over the smaller stock R53 brakes. The smaller brakes have more than ample stopping power to invoke lockup (ABS kicks in) even on hot sticky race tires- available tire friction is the limiting factor in this equation. Now, if we want to start talking repeated heavy braking application, the extra mass of the larger brakes will be an advantage by being less prone to fade.
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