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Old Mar 13, 2021 | 08:09 AM
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Wideband AFR Gauge

Hello! I am still kind of new to mechanical part of cars, I have a 2013 MCS. I have been doing some reaserch on these cars, and since im just about to tune i really would like to add a AFR gauge, i already have an ULTRAGAUGE that helps with boost. But i want to add an AEM AFR gauge or Innovative AFR/BST gauge, but im
not sure if it’ll work since the o2 sensors on the downpipe are narrowband? Or it doesn’t really matter?
 
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Old Mar 13, 2021 | 11:15 AM
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I havent use it yet..i will install it later this month...
P3Gauge +innonate sensor.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2021 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Staxtis
I havent use it yet..i will install it later this month...
P3Gauge +innonate sensor.
so the P3 gauge is an afr gauge? Ill just have to add the sensor that goes in the exhaust right?
 
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Old Mar 17, 2021 | 06:50 PM
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so the P3 gauge is an afr gauge? Ill just have to add the sensor that goes in the exhaust right?
The P3 plugs into the obd2 port and grabs the AFR through there. We do in fact have a wideband O2 sensor on the car. Most newer cars come with them now. With that all of them run off a closed loop system, so if the car goes lean it will either add fuel or do something to save itself. So there's really no need for a physical gauge useless you're really pushing for big power.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2021 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by NeonLed
The P3 plugs into the obd2 port and grabs the AFR through there. We do in fact have a wideband O2 sensor on the car. Most newer cars come with them now. With that all of them run off a closed loop system, so if the car goes lean it will either add fuel or do something to save itself. So there's really no need for a physical gauge useless you're really pushing for big power.
This is INCORRECT.
P3 Gauge has 2 outputs that you can put ANY sensor you want.
There is a sensor from innovate that i wrote it in my previous email....that can be combined with P3 gauge and use an actual sensor for reading the AFR..

https://www.p3cars.com/mini/p3-analo...man-2007-2014/

You buy the analogue edition and you also buy the LC-2 and its just fine..

Possible the BEST customers support ever seen in a company. Jake is "THE MAN" !


PS:I got the gauge my self but i havent install the sensor yet. Just to know....
 
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Staxtis
This is INCORRECT.
P3 Gauge has 2 outputs that you can put ANY sensor you want.
There is a sensor from innovate that i wrote it in my previous email....that can be combined with P3 gauge and use an actual sensor for reading the AFR..

https://www.p3cars.com/mini/p3-analo...man-2007-2014/

You buy the analogue edition and you also buy the LC-2 and its just fine..

Possible the BEST customers support ever seen in a company. Jake is "THE MAN" !


PS:I got the gauge my self but i havent install the sensor yet. Just to know....
Before you tell someone they are wrong, do your research...
This P3 gauge plugs into the OBD port and displays the OEM A/F signal:
http://www.p3cars.com/mini/p3-v3-obd...uge-2007-2014/

And, yes, the upper OEM exhaust sensor is a wide band AFR sensor, and the lower post-cat sensor is a traditional narrow band sensor.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by njaremka
Before you tell someone they are wrong, do your research...
This P3 gauge plugs into the OBD port and displays the OEM A/F signal:
http://www.p3cars.com/mini/p3-v3-obd...uge-2007-2014/

And, yes, the upper OEM exhaust sensor is a wide band AFR sensor, and the lower post-cat sensor is a traditional narrow band sensor.
There are 2 gauges from P3.

The V3 OBD
The analogue

So if you buy the analogue with the innovate sensor...You use the sensor like all the other sensors and have analogue output from downpipe/exhaust to your P3 Gauge.

I bought the Analogue version and this is what it is..
I have also boost tap analogue sensor for my boost. And i also have the Ultragauge in order to watch my other values through the OBD.
 
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