Im asking this with much reserve but was thinking about a 10 pound 50 HP wet shot system to "possibly" take up that low-end lag you [or at least i have...] with turbo ....is this a viable / do-able /survivable thing or just an exercise in futility and possibly a blown up engine [or bent rods ect..] ?? i may be wrong but i was looking at NX Nitrous Express Proton Plus Nitrous System & thought this may be what this particular system was sort of designed for ----- OR ---- is there another option thats as affordable [or more so in the event such standards "50 hp,wet shot ,10# bottle is used..] ???

 

Check this out --- https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post4106498 --- pretty lengthy thread, but lotsa good info in it. Maybe PM the guy for NOS specifics?

 

Yea it can be done, I've done it. In about 2-3 seconds it burned a valve. Unless you have a tune for nitrous, good luck getting that, save yourself the headaches.

 

The more i pilfer and look on the net the more that seems to be so .....i.e. it would be like playing russian roulette --------- I wonder about methanol / H20 injection?? would it take some of the lag out in the bottom end or ????? ----

 

I don't think water/Meth will take the Lag out, It is what it is...Turbo lag...
I used Water/Meth on my past cars and prob will do on this MCS as well.
I use this Water/Meth more for cooling and cleaning than anything else
Cooler the engine the better... heat kills...Can be tuned for Water/Meth additional HP

 

Sorry but meth won't help lag at all. Injection doesn't start till boost is already building to keep from loading up the engine. Mine is adjusted to engage at around 10 psi.

Anti-lag tuning is altering the "tip in" setting when accelerating. The AFR is kept lean (even above stoich) and timing is advanced for a short window to increase EGT. A higher exhaust gas temperature will deliver more energy to the turbine wheel reducing spool times.

 

To give you an idea of what I did last night on the way home from work, closed course test obviously. 😜. I run the following two items on my nitrous kit. And the jets are 67 nos and 36 fuel. Using it to reduce lag I feel is kinda useless. 1st and 2nd gear are so short as it is, you hit it with nos it's gonna be even shorter. I wait til I'm mid 3rd gear if I'm desperate to kick there *** or mid 4th and up. At the bottom is a chart for proper jets that a knowledgable person gave me the other day. I found that one worked best. I had another I used but it was on the safe side of safety and you could tell it was on the rich side of gas. I'll let you guys figure out how hard I'm blasting this thing. Lmao. Anybody wanna try there luck ?

http://www.zex.com/zx/wet-nitrous-management-unithtml/

http://www.zex.com/zx/wet-nitrous-nozzlehtml/

http://www.nitrousexpress.com/oldweb...nglenozzle.pdf

 

i actually decided to go with methanol injection for now [i.e. just boost my octane /cool down the thermal end ...] and i use AT on my mini and dont have a complaint about it at all...theres alot to say about the newer AT's with paddle shift... after i get the methanol part worked out i may consider Nos but im prolly just gonna pay off my mod-debts for now...which will prolly take me 7-9 months...minimum...grr..

 

i better ad this diddy though or im sure i will look like more of an idiot.... i will be getting a Garret Turbo [ATP Garrett GT28RS 350HP Turbo Kit ] after i pay off the 4k paypal debt i got already ....my guess that will help some..im not looking for a dragster or something to impress the masses here ---just something that gets you quicker around the corners in/out multiple times and not burn up what you have... saying that------thats where most of my $$ went in setting up to cool the mini down and STOP if first ----then i will buy the next step up.

 

Going with a GT28RS is a BIG mistake! The Owens unit is much easier to tune for. There are also other hybrids that work well. A Borg Warner 6258, in the EFR series, is also the right size for a Mini. The Garrett is just too slow spooling up and you'll probably be very disappointed with it. I put mine in over 4 years ago, before others were "popular". Been regretting it ever since. Take some time and learn how to read turbo compressor charts, then decide which turbo to use. There's a lot more to upgrading a turbo than installing a well-marketed kit.

 

I lowered my injection to 3 psi. Trying to keep from frying the engine but, it is probably too late because I burn oil like its cool.

 

Tigger, explain more please. I might have multiple issues, but, I burn oil like crazy. I just see some similarities and a few statements just made something click.
I've seen high egt's at some points. I've burned off electrodes. Even with methanol. Burned electrodes are from heat. Heat being caused by lean, advanced timing or both. Just curious cause that whole quote and last post rang a bell for me. And running perfect stoich has always been found to be a tick lean in the past.

 

well it was the included 3" downpipe that caught mine eye & a couple other points about that particular turbo but i will definitely take your advice to heart!!!
thanx for the info

 

Yes, the 3" DP is what decided me against the JCW turbo --- the only other one I could find 4.5 years ago. I too wanted a kit --- something with all the necessary parts to make it fit. Since then, the supplier has modified their kit based on my "critique". Turns out that most any muffler shop can build a 3" system. Might not be fancy chrome throughout, but will be very functional.

 

Function is what you want. Chrome looks good but won't get you home.