android ftw!!! and computers are far superior over mac too, just look at the video cards for an instance my alienware has better video cards then their best mac desktop.

apple is waaayyy overrated in too many ways.

 

Yeah, Apple is always way behind the curve, never innovates.

Uh, wait.. here's a shot of phones BEFORE the iPhone, and on the right, phones after iPhone. Any questions?

 

That's funny. Incorrect, but funny. Of the top of my head:

• Apple was the first with a commercially viable GUI. Yes, I know it was based on PARC research, but Xerox couldn't sell it.
• Apple built the first PDA, the Newton Message Pad
• WIndows tablets languished for maybe 2 years and didn't start selling until the iPad came along
• In the last 2 years, Apple stock went from about $200 to over $500. In the same time, Google went from about $520 to about $610 and Microsoft went from about $29 to $31. Percentage-wise, what does this say to you?

 

Very old thread, I know, BUT surprised no one stepped up and told you MS makes a Mac version of MS Office and has for decades.

 

heavy apple user here... all the way back from iphone 2,3g,3gs,4,4s / apple tv2 / ipad 1 / ipad 2 / mac book pro / ipod nano / ipod shuffle... will probably on the ipad 3 bandwagon soon :P

 

It says apple has ridiculous profit margins and that the consumer is stupid enough to pay for it.

No thanks.

Anything you apple can do, my open source computers can do better, more efficiently, and i can upgrade the box whenever i need to.

So continue to enjoy your fantasy of perfection.

People who have trouble with computers should use apples since obviously they arent smart enough to properly run and maintain a PC. Shame.

Oh and if apple is so awesome why do 499 of the 500 world super computers run linux/unix based OS's... and why did Mac steal a good portion of their MAC OS from the open source community.

 

Because they took something great and turned it into something that consumers can use easily?


p.s. if it's open source, how could it be stealing?

 

To borrow an idea and not provide credit to its origins is my opinion stealing whether its open source or not.

Maybe consumers should get smarter instead of having everything do they thinking for them.

 

Open source is great. You get what you pay for, but you have a misconception. I doubt that people use open source-anything because it is actually superior (and it isn't). They either want to be in total control of their situation and tweak it is they like or minimal $$ offsets the lack of paid support and semi-buggy software. Open scource is wonderful if your situation can tolerate the shortcomings. The problem is that most people and organizations cannot.

Steal? Where did Gates and company get the foundation for DOS? They struck it rich and Gary Kildall took a dive.

So, tell me, what products and markets have been created by open source software?

 

Obviously you do not do any sort of enterprise computing.. I am an IT Manager in the Port of LA, and prior I was an Unix/Linux admin for the US Govt.. I can tell you that both these places rely heavily on open source OS's. And buggy OS's? I think you sir have misconceptions of the open source world, but its that MAC mentality telling you to take the easy way out.

 

Ok, I'll bite. How can you develop an iPhone app on your open source computer without running MacOS X?

Here's a hint: You can't.

I win.

 

Actually you can..

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+create+i...s+in+the+linux

You probably dont use google though cause it isnt apple.

Anything else wonderboy?

 

What I gather from this thread is that everyone likes different things (ain't that a shocker!) Linux works well for some circumstances, OSX for another, and Windows for others. Being the 'best' is purely subjective....just as nobody could possibly tell you that you have the 'best' car....or the 'best' haircut. It's all opinionated and everyone deserves their own.

I have played around on all 3 mentioned above and I like all of them. I personally feel that a Mac fits my lifestyle better. I am a high school math teacher and work on documents and presentations often. Everyone knows that Apple products cost a premium, but everyone knows that you pay for what you get. My school uses Windows XP...and soon to upgrade to Windows 7. I like that I can use my office software on my home computer which is so easily compatible with my work computers. I happen to find it easier to work on my Mac because of the track pad and all the shortcuts. 4 finger swipes, pinching, two finger scrolling, two finger clicking. Everything becomes very intuitive.

I feel that this thread has become a bit too narcissistic.

 

In addition, this thread was initially posted to compare the two products; MINI and Apple. They have a lot in common with packaging, image, and advertising. I don't believe the OP's intention was to promote fandboyism. Let's get it back on topic.

 

So I am going to create a random poll that shows that 2012 MCS owners are primarily Droid users haha.

This thread was doomed from the start.

I guess i miss the apple/mini connections..

MINI - Can be upgraded and modified.
Apple - You have to buy a whole new phone and get milked annually for a few basic features other phones have all ready had.

MINI - Opening up my mini doesnt void my warranty.
Apple - Opening an apple product does.

I firmly dont believe you get what you pay for in regards to apple.. so paying double makes it better? Thats a stupid mindset you probably have the dealer do all your work for you.

Granted you have an AP.. which seems like an apple idea..
Custom dyno tune seems more like an open source idea.

Oh enjoy your products that cost pennies on the dollar to make.. yet cost hundreds of dollars in the store.

 

I use a Droid too. I'm merely stating some similarities. Hell, I could talk all day about how my MINI is different than yours...yet they are very VERY similar at the same time. I personally think mine is far superior...you may argue otherwise IT'S ALL UP TO THE PERSONAL USER....nobody can dictate another's opinion.

Making sense now?

Please don't be demeaning to others. There is no need to knock everyone down on here. It's a COMMUNITY, not a dictatorship.

 

Let's see... I've owned 4 iPhones (Including the original, like $400.) I've broken 2, one at my fault. Apple replaced both. I bought my MacBook pro in 2007. It's fallen several times, had countless beer and jack n'cokes spilled on it in my partying days, and I'm typing from it now. It has had a couple issues, and apple fixed them no questions asked (premature battery failure, disc drive acting up.) Also, two 30gig 5g ipod videos from '07, both still working, one after a trip through the washing machine. Yeah, I buy apple products.

But before I bought my Cooper in May of '11 I drove a lifted '06 Wrangler, normally covered in a thick layer of mud. Didn't see that coming, did you?

Oh, and I upgraded both my memory from 2 to 4 gig and my hard drive from some lowly amount to 500 gig without any issue. Nothing extreme, but after 5 years that's all I needed to keep up with current demands.

 

Maybe you need help with reading what I actually wrote, or even understanding what you yourself even googled.

Even under Linux, you still need to run MacOS X in a virtual setup to develop iPhone apps. That's not open source, that's proprietary software (Mac OS X to then run Xcode).

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+read

Kinda sad that your snarky remark of "wonderboy" is overshadowed by your post being completely wrong. LOL

I win...again.

 

You sir are a moron.

You didnt even read anything googled, you read what one article. Man I should create an app for your precious phone in linux that reminds you hourly that you are retarded.

Seriously.. read those articles people have done it in Linux without the Mac OSX..

Not even worth the argument.. continue thinking you are some awesome way superior cause you cant think for yourself.

 

Why are you so insulting and argumentative, especially when you're wrong?

Linux without the Mac OSX? No, they haven't.
You need Mac OSX. They are running Linux, and then using a virtual machine to load MacOS X as an emulator.

I use Xcode and develop iPhone apps. I know this. I also own Windows, Linux and Mac machines. You're googling headlines and not even reading the articles. You're then being incredibly insulting and you're dead wrong.

Read the articles you googled yourself. You need to run Apple's Xcode, which then needs Mac OS X. You can virtually get around the Mac hardware requirement, but not the Mac OS X requirement. Exactly what I said from the start.

Please stop being so insulting, especially when it's clear you really don't know what you're talking about.

 

I like my Iphone.. But thats the only Apple product I known

 

Simply put..

 

Mini plus an Ipod, plus an Ipad...

 

Simply put: this is false.

Not sure why you have to insult with name calling, but each OS is fine by me. Each has their benefits and issues. But good luck developing an iPhone app and uploading it to the Apple Store with your open source computer because you can't without Mac OS X and Xcode.

 

Apple may be the last true innovative American company. Sad but probably very true at this point. Iconic products all over the place from Apple.
They took a classic Sony idea, the Walkman, and did what Sony could no longer do, make an innovative product. It changed the personal music player industry. And that's just one product! I don't know if this will continue but it's been an impressive run! Their stock price says it all! $12 to $500+