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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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A SIRIUS wrinkle

Hmm, looks as if you want combined Sirius-XM service, if the merger goes through, you'll need to buy a new radio. Not sure if that means a whole new unit, or an add-on to get the second provider's signal.
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From the Associated Press:

The top executives at the nation's two satellite radio companies detailed pricing plans Monday that they said would let customers choose which channels they want to receive if the two firms are combined.

Sirius Satellite Radio Inc. announced last February that it would acquire XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc. for $4.7 billion. The combination requires approval from antitrust regulators and the Federal Communications Commission.

The pricing plans announced Monday range from $6.99 per month for 50 channels offered by one service to $16.99 per month where customers would keep their existing service, plus "choose from the best" of channels offered by the other service.

That means a customer could subscribe to both the Major League Baseball channel on XM and the National Football League channel offered by Sirius, on the same radio.

Currently, the price of a monthly subscription for both companies is $12.95 and there is no channel choice, or "a la carte" option.

A combination of Sirius and XM, which broadcast to a combined 14 million subscribers, faces steep regulatory challenges, however. When the companies received their licenses from the FCC to begin offering subscription radio service via satellite, they agreed not to merge.

The companies must prove to the Justice Department that the deal is not anticompetitive. They must also prove to the FCC that the acquisition would be in the best interest of the public, which owns the airwaves the two companies use to deliver their signals.

Sirius CEO Mel Karmazin, in a speech at the National Press Club in Washington on Monday, said the U.S. is in a "revolutionary age of audio entertainment" and that the companies must compete with a whole range of products that weren't around when the licenses were first issued.

He said the companies compete with free services, including portable digital music players, cell phones that download music, digital radio and the "800-pound gorilla" that is terrestrial radio.

The National Association of Broadcasters opposes the acquisition, calling it a "government-sanctioned monopoly."

Spokesman Dennis Wharton said in a written statement that policymakers "should not be hoodwinked" by the announcement. He said the "a la carte" option would require customers to buy new radios and he said that nothing in the past has prevented either company from offering an a la carte option before.

Karmazin noted that the NAB itself claims satellite radio is a competitor when it lobbies the FCC to loosen limits on radio station ownership. He said the NAB is "not just in conflict with us, they are in conflict with themselves."

He said savings to be realized with a combination would amount to "hundreds of millions of dollars per year," thanks to a drop in expenses. Such a savings is what would make the "a la carte" packages possible.

He noted that Sirius has never turned a profit in its 17-year history and lost $1 billion last year, but insisted that if the proposed acquisition does not go through, nothing will change.

"I believe both companies will be able to compete in a robust market," he said.

If the buyout is approved, the combined company would offer a total of eight different packages.

The lowest-priced "a la carte" package would offer 50 stations from one service for $6.99 per month, plus additional nonpremium stations within the service at 25 cents apiece. Premium programming, however, like professional sports and the Howard Stern show, would cost $5 or $6 more.

A second "a la carte" plan would let customers tune in to 100 channels, mostly from one service, plus a handful of "best of" channels on the other service, for $14.99.

Both the a la carte packages would require the purchase of a new radio, the companies said.

Other packages would include family friendly lineups priced at $11.95 and $14.95 and music and news talk packages, both for $9.99. Customers happy with their existing service would still pay $12.95 per month.

Consumer groups have opposed the deal.

Chris Murray, senior counsel at Consumers Union, the nonprofit publisher of "Consumer Reports" magazine, called the announcement an "interesting, positive development." However, he said, the merger of the two companies would still result in a monopoly, which would ultimately be bad for consumers.

Sirius and XM hope to close the deal by the end of the year.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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Sirius has said that your current radio will always work. I tried looking for the page on thier site but could not find it. I have it saved somewhere just in case i need it
 
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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Thanks for posting that.. Looks like I'll sit back and wait a while before I buy a satellite radio for the Mini.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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Both Sirius and XM have stated that there will be no need to buy new hardware. Financially it would ruin the company if they required everyone to buy a new radio, the class action suits forcing full reimbursement of new devices, calls action from vehicle owners with integrated solutions, etc would bury them in the blink of an eye.

Simple solution... compare lineups, select the "best of" when formats are duplicated, kill the losing channel and simulcast the "best" one. Pretty simple really.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SDMike
Both Sirius and XM have stated that there will be no need to buy new hardware.
Yes, if you want to continue listening to one service or the other, you won't have to buy anything new. However, if you want some Sirius offerings AND some XM programming, you will need to buy a new radio.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 08:26 AM
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What would prevent them from channelling the feeds from each service to the other service through whatever "filters" that would allow them to broadcast on both?
 
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by mcarlo52
What would prevent them from channelling the feeds from each service to the other service through whatever "filters" that would allow them to broadcast on both?
Two Things, probably one bandwidth. Although there is probably no need to channel music, news from one to the other as both contents are primarily the same. It would be premium services that you would want to do that to. They couid accomplish that minimum channeling (basically uplinking Sirus premium to XM satellite and visa versa) and maybe stay within bandwidth. The other thing may be desire to do so.

As far as new recievers go, if they did the channelling as described, no recievers currently have a cable box kind of capability to recognize various codes from the service and block out channels you didn't pay for, so you're stuck with whatever basic service offered by the single carrier.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mcarlo52
What would prevent them from channelling the feeds from each service to the other service through whatever "filters" that would allow them to broadcast on both?
I don't know enough about their broadcast signals to know whether that's possible. It wouldn't seem likely they would want to upset their customers — if they didn't have to — by making them buy a brand new radio just to receive content from both services.

Without the kind of filtering you mentioned, they would also prevent themselves from adding revenue from people who might add programming from the service they don't currently have but wouldn't buy a new receiver just to get it.

I'll be interested in hearing more about this as time goes on.
 
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