Hi everyone, I'm experiencing a weird issue with my Clubman. I have a 2008 MINI Cooper Clubman (Non-Turbo) 6-speed manual transmission with 138,800 miles. It runs great, as I do all the work on it myself, and keep up all the maintenance.

However, I noticed that when I'm driving down the street between 10 and 30 mph, and then shift into neutral and press on the gas pedal (while the car is still rolling) there is no rev, but when I shift back into gear, speed up past 30 mph, then shift into neutral again and press the gas pedal I can rev.

Here are some test that I made notes of:

1. I can rev when rolling at any speed, in any gear with the clutch engaged.
2. I can rev in neutral with the car parked, or stopped at a red light.
3. I can rev when rolling at 30 MPH or above in gear or in neutral.
4. I can NOT rev when rolling between 10 and 30 MPH when in neutral.
5. I can rev when rolling between 10 and 30 MPH with the clutch engaged.

I have no check engine lights, no P codes, she runs like a clock.

I don't understand it... when am rolling to a red light under 30 MPH, and drop into neutral I can't rev. If I hold the gas pedal down long enough, like 20 seconds then I can rev. It seems like there is some kind of rev delay, fuel delay, or something. So, today I changed the fuel filter, and the fuel pump, and I still can't rev in neutral when rolling between 10 and 30 MPH.

Does anyone have this issue? I'm not sure if this is normal, or not, but if anyone out there has a Clubman 6-Speed manual transmission, can you rev in neutral while rolling between 10 to 30 MPH?

Thanks,

M.

 

There a some few of us who remember riding in the family '50 Roadmaster and will find your quandary questionable. Why does the engine need 'reved' while the car is coasting at any speed while in neutral?
The only time to run up the RPM that I am familiar with is when matching the engine RPM to that of the gear box when down shifting. It's always good to have high RPM stability when challenging the chicanes.

 

as a shot in the dark try turning dsc off.
another thought is maybe your reverse switch is engaging in neutral.

 

"Why does the engine need 'reved' while the car is coasting at any speed while in neutral?" In a mechanics point of view... there are times when I like to rev to listen for any exhaust leaks, backfire, or misfiring, timming adjustments, or if the car is about to stall... I can rev a few times to help keep the car running.

I have always owned classic VW's... like a 1957 oval window ragtop with semaphores, and I was always able to rev coasting in neutral at any speed. I'm just curious why am not able to in my MINI.

 

Hum... I'll try turning DSC off, and see if that will make a difference. I'll look into the reverse switch as well.

 

Very interesting. Curious if the DSC will change anything. Be sure to let us know what you find! Not that this is related, but I did find this thread here for the R56 that states there is a rev limit in neutral for the manuals as a feature. Maybe it could be some sort of feature for the R55?? Curious if someone else would chime in with their R55 and see if theirs does the same thing...

 

[QUOTE=Low & Slow Baby!;4139040 there are times when I like to rev to listen.[/QUOTE]
That, I can subscribe to. I'd installed Stebro exhaust on my old XK-E and loved the tone they made. For diagnosis it makes sense, I was just trying to get my head around the idea of driving down the street, shifting into neutral and running up the engine just for the heck of it.

 

its called rev matching.

 

Ok... I tested it both with the DSC on, and off... and it's still the same... no rev in neutral between 10 and 30 MPH. I press the gas pedal to rev, and there's nothing... the gas pedal goes all the way down to the floor with no rev... it's almost as if the fuel pump knows the car is in neutral, and automatically cuts off the fuel supply... which in turn prevents the engine from reving.

I haven't had time to look into the reverse switch... I'll try to get to that soon.

 

No... am not doing it just for the heck of it... it's more for diagnostic purposes. However, I must admit since I installed my new dual exhaust system last month... I have been "rev happy" due to the smooth exhaust tone, and thats when I noticed no rev between 10 and 30 MPH in neutral. The question now is why I can't I rev in neutral between 10 and 30 MPH. Is there some sort of sensor that is preventing the engine from reving? If so, what/where is the sensor located on my MINI?

 

I can rev match smoothly when downshifting in any gear... and the transmission is solid.

It's only when I'm in neutral rolling between 10 and 30 MPH there is no rev. I just want to know if this is standard for the R55, or what.

 

Hi PelicanParts.com... you guys are one of my favorite suppliers when I order parts. I read the thread the you posted... yeah I read before that there is a rev limit... like no rev past 3500RPM, or even 4000RPM. In my issue... its no rev between 10 and 30 MPH.