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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 02:28 PM
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No spare, totally missed it. Help

When I bought my car I TOTALLY forgot to check the spare tire area. Well I did today. NO spare, non nothing. No jack, just the opening where it goesI looked them up on EBAY, I saw the tire and some device with it but no jack. I have 17 inch rims, what size does my spare need to be?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 02:39 PM
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https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ire-tools.html
 
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 02:40 PM
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did you buy it new?

My MINI S's came with 'run flat' tires and then you "do not need a spare" and sure do not get one. Heck, my 2002-S didn't even come with a jack!

& a Cooper S does not have a place to HOLD a spare ....

dunno about a clubby tho, never laid hands on one.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 02:48 PM
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No I did not buy the car new, used 09 Clubman. Thinking about it, it seems like there was never a spare in it maybe. Saw no rub marks or that like that there was a share in it.
How do I know if I have run flats? I have the tire air pressure monitor system on it.
I assume run flats are special make tires?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 02:50 PM
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Seems I should still have a jack and the like? Where would it be?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 02:52 PM
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That thread link also says on the S the normal spare would only fit the back. Just freaks me out that I have NO spare. What does a run flat do me? I have to change it out sooner then later I would think? I know nothing of them.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 02:52 PM
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I got the surprise too. Yesterday. Just a battery in the back! Ahh Just like my old VW Bug! Not fan on donuts but what what do you all do about that? I didn't have a flat.. Just looking around my new toy. Also enjoying the stories on the never flat, fix a flat or whatever you call them tires.. If the worst happens, will fix a flat get me to the store? What is that flat button on the middle on the seats?

how are the MCS in the snow? I've asked before, but nobody's answered. The season is coming and this has to be my daily driver. Did I make a mistake and just get a piece of crap 4x4?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 02:59 PM
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My battery is up front under the plastics on pass side firewall, no IDEA how to get that out.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 03:38 PM
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Look on the side wall of your tire to see if they say run flat or something like that. You can also look up your tire on www.tirerack.com.

Check with you car insurance company to see if they offer roadside. Mine (USAA) does for about $8 per YEAR.

I remember reading that some year models did not come with jacks, etc. then people complained and they added them back in.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 1yesfan
When I bought my car I TOTALLY forgot to check the spare tire area. Well I did today. NO spare, non nothing. No jack, just the opening where it goesI looked them up on EBAY, I saw the tire and some device with it but no jack. I have 17 inch rims, what size does my spare need to be?
There are, like, a thousand threads about this subject on NAM. A search might help. But at any rate, no, your S didn't come with a spare. And yes it came with runflat tires. Now, my 07 and 2012 MCSs came with a jack and all of that stuff. You could put an ad on NAM market place and see if anyone has one that you can buy. It is worth having.

The OEM run flat tires are not good riding on 16" wheels and would be even worse on 17" wheels. The original owner probably did what most people do, which is to switched them out for a non-runflats as soon as the they can.

If your tire pressure monitors are working right, they would not worry about having a spare. Most people buy a Slime kit with an air pump for peace of mind. The monitors will tell you if you are having a problem and in most cases you will have a chance to stop and can pump it up. AAA also works for a tow service.

If you want, you can go back to the the RFTs (runflat tires) if you don't want to carry a spare. I would go with a better brand than the Continentals. I am running Bridgestone winter RFTs and they are as comfortable as the non-RFT all season tires I use. The RFTs get you a long ways (I think about 250 miles) after they lose air. So that is something to think about.

As for the battery, there is a DIY that shows how to remove it. But that is another story.
 

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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 07:13 PM
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Please research run flats more thoroughly. Typically allow only about 50 miles at reduced speed. The more distance run, the less repair opportunity. A Google search or search on this forum will give a lot of info.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 07:42 PM
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This is what Tire Rack has to say about RFTs:

"Note that a run-flat tire’s endurance is dependent on operating conditions such as the flat tire’s position on the vehicle, vehicle load, ambient temperature, driving speed and distance traveled. Run-flat tires cannot be driven faster then 50 miles per hour and typically offer up to 50 miles of extended mobility. Selected applications, based on vehicle and the run-flat tire design can range from just 25 miles up to 200 miles. Consult your vehicle owner’s manual to determine what you should expect."

Even so, at the minimum it is 50 miles it will get you quite a ways and that is the same as for the space saver spares they put in cars. But I agree...needs more research for details.

In my case, there is no way I want to have to change a tire in a snow storm in the middle of the night. 50 miles works for me.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 08:04 PM
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My 2013 Clubman did not come with a spare (but, yes to a jack... sure.. makes total sense right?)

Its all better after buying this kit:

http://www.detroittuned.com/mini-cooper-spare-tire/

And this:

http://www.detroittuned.com/mini-spa...ray-hold-down/

Now you have a space for the factory spare, and jack storage.

If your Clubman is an "S" model, beware the spare will only fit the rear of the car. The 15" spare can't clear the front brake calipers. This is normal.

I have run flats as well. But plan to ditch them in the future.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 08:48 PM
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This is the Spare that we sell and use:
http://www.waymotorworks.com/mini-spare-tire-wheel.html

And if you need a Jack kit, I prob have one out of a wrecked car that would save you a few bucks.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 05:23 AM
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I vote for plug kit and air compressor. It works most of the time,except in a blow-out you need a spare.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 05:45 AM
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So what do I do for a spare for my S up front? If the rims are diff?
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 1yesfan
So what do I do for a spare for my S up front? If the rims are diff?
If you get a front blowout, you just take off the rear tire and out it in the front and use the spare ( space saver) on the rear because the wheel is so small that it won't clear the front breaks
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 06:12 AM
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DUH, I was thinking that the stock rim on front were diff then the rear. DUH.
Why wouldn't they make spare that fits BOTH front and back.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 1yesfan
DUH, I was thinking that the stock rim on front were diff then the rear. DUH.
Why wouldn't they make spare that fits BOTH front and back.
Big rotors....and calipers...
The spare would be so big...it would NO LONGER BE A SPACE SAVER!!
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The last Hyundai rental car I used (was a 2013 with about 500 miles) had regular tires, and rather than a spare, it had a airpump and a bottle of slime...
Still had the spot for the tire....just had a foam holder in the shape of a tire..foir the pump...no jack either. So this is not a new thing (the no spare).
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 09:41 AM
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Yes, 1yes fan, there is no spare. My new '14 Clubman was ordered with 16 inch standard (non RSC/runflat) tires. No spare either. I did get a foam facsmile tire cover/tool holder with a jack and other bits and pieces. Just to re-interate what has been stated before in this thread, buy a donut spare from Way Motorworks, a real bargin at 115$. Very cheap insurance that can get you out a real jam if you shred a sidewall with no functioning cellphone. Out in my country, it can take 2+ hours for help to arrive IF you have cell phone reception which is not a given in Western OK. It will work only on the rear tire, so if you have a flat on the front, you will need to swap a rear tire to the front to put the donut on the rear. Even if it did clear the calipers, it would really screw up the front differental/tranny anyway. I carry a plug kit and motorcycle air pump as well for easy to repair puctures. I am not a fan of slime except for real small punctures, which probably won't happen when I have a flat. Do all this and you can relax and enjoy driving that fine vehicle out in the big wide open!! Best regards.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 04:39 PM
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The one thing that you should know is that you can jack up the whole side of the car at the front jack point.

So, if you have a spare that only fits the back, loosen the bolts on both wheels, jack up the whole side of the car, take the rear tire off, take the front tire off, put the back tire on the front, take the spare and put it on the back, put the flat tire in the boot...done in "5 min" ok maybe 10...
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 04:47 PM
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thanks for the info folks. The car is at the dealer for the Oil line Heat Shield. They are working for me on the bare bones stuff I need to put a donut on it.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2013 | 06:15 AM
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i JUST ordered the spare from Way Motor Works, as I got a bolt stuck in my run-flat tire and am replacing the whole set with winter tires anyway. The clubman S DOES have a spot for the spare under the rear trunk floor. But from what I've read (and was stated above) the spare only works on the back, so you have to swap the tries around if you get a flat on the front. I was pretty excited about seeing the Way compact spare for that lower price, as the "other" kit I found online was more like $350 (for what reason, I'm not so sure, other than to gouge customers?). Anyway, even if you have run-flats and keep them, having the spare tire isn't such a bad idea in an emergency...
 
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Old Nov 19, 2013 | 06:47 AM
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Yea I was at the dealer last night talking about the spare tire area. Kinda surprised me was that one of the shop tech did not know if the regular clubman has a spare tire well, that the S may be made diff and not have one. WHAT. I looked at a reg clubman on the sales floor and it was set up the same as my S but did have the pare and the like.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2013 | 07:11 AM
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Why Is Everyone So Worried About A Spare?
It is an obsolete idea in any car. You can puncture a tire with a nail and continue to drive and not even know it until air pressure leaks down a little, then You remove the nail and plug the hole without even removing the tire.
A spare was a necessity in 1955 when You had tube tires and a nail meant a flat.
If You properly maintain Your tires the chance of a blowout is very remote.
Have a tow clause on Your insurance or AAA, drive and worry about water leaks, broken belts or any of the many things that are more likely to leave You on the roadside than a flat tire.
 
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