R55 Pre-Buy Check? - '11 Mini Clubman S
#1
10-31-2013, 07:18 AM
Pre-Buy Check? - '11 Mini Clubman S
Hey All,
I am considering buying a 2011 Mini Clubman S with the following specs and is listed @ $23,289. I will probably try to get them down to about $20k. Anything jump out to you that i should be aware of?
Original Build
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I am considering buying a 2011 Mini Clubman S with the following specs and is listed @ $23,289. I will probably try to get them down to about $20k. Anything jump out to you that i should be aware of?
Original Build
Model 1116 Coop S CLB USD 24,800.00
Color A88 Hot Chocolate Metallic 500.00
Upholstery K9E1 Carbon Black Leatherette N/C
Options ZCW Cold Weather Package 750.00
313 Power folding mirrors N/C
314 Heated mirrors and washer jets N/C
494 Heated front seats N/C
ZPP Premium Package 1,750.00
403 Dual pane panoramic sunroof N/C
534 Automatic climate control N/C
674 Harman-Kardon sound system N/C
1CA CO2 relevant vehicles N/C
2GC 16" alloy wheels, 6-Star Twin Spoke N/C
329 Black bonnet stripes 100.00
383 Roof and mirror caps in black N/C
386 Roof rails 250.00
4AA Anthracite headliner 250.00
4CU Interior color Carbon Black N/C
522 Xenon headlights 500.00
6ND Bluetooth and USB/iPod adapter 500.00
927 All-season tires N/C
Net Total 29,400.00
Destination Charge 700.00
Total Suggested Price 30,100.00
Color A88 Hot Chocolate Metallic 500.00
Upholstery K9E1 Carbon Black Leatherette N/C
Options ZCW Cold Weather Package 750.00
313 Power folding mirrors N/C
314 Heated mirrors and washer jets N/C
494 Heated front seats N/C
ZPP Premium Package 1,750.00
403 Dual pane panoramic sunroof N/C
534 Automatic climate control N/C
674 Harman-Kardon sound system N/C
1CA CO2 relevant vehicles N/C
2GC 16" alloy wheels, 6-Star Twin Spoke N/C
329 Black bonnet stripes 100.00
383 Roof and mirror caps in black N/C
386 Roof rails 250.00
4AA Anthracite headliner 250.00
4CU Interior color Carbon Black N/C
522 Xenon headlights 500.00
6ND Bluetooth and USB/iPod adapter 500.00
927 All-season tires N/C
Net Total 29,400.00
Destination Charge 700.00
Total Suggested Price 30,100.00
#2
10-31-2013, 08:59 AM
5th Gear
It really bothers and pisses me off every time I see "First oil service 20,000 miles" on maintenance records. I know there's not way to prove if the PO did one before then, but I sure would hope so. With such few miles, I'm sure it's fine so long as you do oil changes more often than that. That's over 2 years on the original oil!!
As for price, I'm not sure what it would spec out price wise with all those features, but I really think for being 2 years old, I'd talk them down further. Can get good financing on a brand new one for $25-30K loaded up with options. On top of that, the 2014 is on it's way so 2013 and 2012 hold overs will be deeply discounted soon. Wouldn't be surprised if you can get a newer one, with nearly no miles, for $20-25.
As for price, I'm not sure what it would spec out price wise with all those features, but I really think for being 2 years old, I'd talk them down further. Can get good financing on a brand new one for $25-30K loaded up with options. On top of that, the 2014 is on it's way so 2013 and 2012 hold overs will be deeply discounted soon. Wouldn't be surprised if you can get a newer one, with nearly no miles, for $20-25.
#3
10-31-2013, 09:13 AM
Yeah but it looks like they did do a oil change at 10k miles in june 2012. Personally I do oil changes at 6k miles/6 months.
The current deals are 1.9% and pay first 2 payments (up to $350x2).
but you are right about the left over 2011/12 vs new 13/14. Just not a lot of Manual Clubman S around.
The current deals are 1.9% and pay first 2 payments (up to $350x2).
but you are right about the left over 2011/12 vs new 13/14. Just not a lot of Manual Clubman S around.
#4
10-31-2013, 10:26 AM
5th Gear
didn't even see that one lol. So oil changes seem to be somewhat on par.
To me, if you're using the right long life/high temp rated synthetic oil for the car, 7-8K miles isn't all that big of a deal. Some tests I've seen are even showing the oil holding up beyond that. Only time I would justify changing my oil sooner is in the event of a track day.
Give the car a good go over, pick apart every little thing, make sure it's 100% what you want and haggle the crap out of em lol. I wouldn't personally pay over $20K for it.
To me, if you're using the right long life/high temp rated synthetic oil for the car, 7-8K miles isn't all that big of a deal. Some tests I've seen are even showing the oil holding up beyond that. Only time I would justify changing my oil sooner is in the event of a track day.
Give the car a good go over, pick apart every little thing, make sure it's 100% what you want and haggle the crap out of em lol. I wouldn't personally pay over $20K for it.
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10-31-2013, 11:31 AM
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#7
10-31-2013, 05:43 PM
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Give yourself some ammunition. Do some research, know what the trade in value is because that is going to be a lot closer to what they have in it. The only problem with going in with arbitrary numbers is that once they say no to your offer you really don't have anywhere to go in your negotiation. Much different is when you can say " there are three dealers within a two hour drive that have almost the same options as this and they have agreed to sell it to me for XXXXXXX". Do your homework and negotiate from a position of strength. Act indifferent about their car, treat it as a commodity because they do. Good luck. Remember that a good deal is a state of mind not a price.
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#8
10-31-2013, 07:06 PM
Give yourself some ammunition. Do some research, know what the trade in value is because that is going to be a lot closer to what they have in it. The only problem with going in with arbitrary numbers is that once they say no to your offer you really don't have anywhere to go in your negotiation. Much different is when you can say " there are three dealers within a two hour drive that have almost the same options as this and they have agreed to sell it to me for XXXXXXX". Do your homework and negotiate from a position of strength. Act indifferent about their car, treat it as a commodity because they do. Good luck. Remember that a good deal is a state of mind not a price.
#9
10-31-2013, 07:16 PM
1. Not thrilled with the color, i like it, but don't love it. more a blue man myself
2. The HPD replacement is a bit worrying, but i know it was a common issue (pretty sure my 09 MCS had it replaced too)
3. Honestly, we don't need a new car asap and our budget is 20k maybe 21k tops. So if they can't do that we walk away. The wife will be there to make sure we stick to it :-)
#10
10-31-2013, 07:18 PM
4th Gear
They won't come off their number just because, you have to give them a compelling reason. Fear of loss is a powerful motivator. If they realistically feel they might lose a qualified customer to the competition, they will work hard to close the deal. They know if you walk, there is a very good chance they won't see you again. Just remember, at some point you are going to have to say yes. good luck.
#11
11-01-2013, 04:00 AM
They won't come off their number just because, you have to give them a compelling reason. Fear of loss is a powerful motivator. If they realistically feel they might lose a qualified customer to the competition, they will work hard to close the deal. They know if you walk, there is a very good chance they won't see you again. Just remember, at some point you are going to have to say yes. good luck.
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