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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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Wax-on Wax-off

Someone please assist me.....
I know this is a Detailers question, Please forgive me, but I'm not so OCDetailer yet, so I wanted some answers from the Drivers forums.

I used Mequiar's NXT Tech Wax 2.0 on my Plastic Trim because Maguiar's helpline said it would Not cause "White Wax Marks. Wrong, after a few weeks of cold rains the dreaded wax marks appeared. Turtle ICE had never given me this problem, I screwed up.
After reading most of the detailing threads, I'm O-Fish-Oly confused .
It does seem that the suggested Peanut Butter, Peanut Oils, Olive Oils, WD-40 etc just keep the plastic Wet so it is not noticeable. Black Wow and Back to Black just "Cover" the marks.
Has anyone ever found a product that still looked good after at least 3 or 4 weeks? Am I now on the weekly dress the trim at each washing?
So is there an actual product to strip wax without dulling the Black?
Please tell me your "Long-Term" results with what you like...


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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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I think Black Wow will solve all of your problems. It doesn't cover up trim staining, it actually cleans the wax/stains off. (BW is pretty much transparent - it has a reddish/orange tint, but I think that's just so it looks pretty in the bottle, it doesn't color the plastic you apply it to.)

Black Wow will last several weeks before you need to reapply it, and a little goes a *long* way. I've been using it almost since Richard started selling it, and I'm only on my second bottle because the first bottle (still half-full) disappeared from my luggage during a plane trip.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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Some people will swear by those products you've listed. Me... I've tried just about all of them. And I say those who say they can remove it are full of... uhhhh.... baloney.

Some will temporarily remove the white residue. Some will cover it up. None will permanently remove it.

Until Octage Guy (Show Car Detailing) comes out with his Pre-Wow product that has been proven to remove the residue, you are just going to have to keep fighting the battle. I've found the best way is to cover it up with the Black Wow. That will last longer than any other semi-solution... about two months.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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Scott, I was typing my reply as you submitted yours. So... didn't direct my "baloney" comment directly at you. But really, my white marks keep coming back through the Black Wow after about 8 weeks.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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Black-Wow

So dosn't Black Wow get thicker with each application, and after a year or two look splotchie? It seems like anything that "covers" a stain will build up over time. Am I getting too OCD over this?



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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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No such thing as "too OCD".

No, it doesn't get splotchie. It wears off after a while... and then you just reapply like you did the first time.

By the way, put it on VERY thin or you will have to go back and wipe off the excess. The more you put on, the more it attracts dust and dirt until it soaks into the plastic trim enough. I like to apply it and then the next day give the car a wash to remove the excess Black Wow.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 05:37 PM
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Well, we may be getting our stains from different products, as well. I've been able to permanently remove trim stains with BW, but I really have to change how I use the BW - I go from a "trim dressing" mindset to a "cleaning/scrubbing" one.

I put away the foam shoe polish applicator that I normally use, and switch to the sewn edge of a "utility" microfiber cloth and just scrub away at the stain with all the force I can muster, if for no other reason than to get down inside the "grain" on the black trim pieces.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CR&PW&JB
I like to apply it and then the next day give the car a wash to remove the excess Black Wow.
Ditto - too much is definitely too much. Some people even apply the BW *before* washing the car if the trim isn't too filthy.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 05:44 PM
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Black-Wow wears off with washing, so no it does not build-up. It works well at covering up white marks for about 8 weeks as Chile-Pep-Jet says

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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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For the wax marks that are stuck on the black plastic, try using Dawn dishwashing soap. It is recommended by Zaino Bros. to remove wax from the paint, it should do the same on the plastic trim.

I use 303 Aerospace Protectant on the dash and also the plastic, readily available at your local autoparts store. It protects against fade without the greasy, Armor All look. However, I think you would have to apply after each wash. The good news it is anti-static, so it tends to repel dust a lot better than other products I have used in the past.
 

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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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Dawn only works on natural wax, such as Carnuba. It does nothing to synthetic waxes, which most of us use these days, and what the OP has used.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 06:44 PM
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wash ? Wax? no comprede


oh wait you guys live in the city


not up it the wet rainy mountains at the end of a muddy gravel road

I'll think about it after rainy season
 
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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TRY DUMONDE TECH CITRUS SOLVENT i got at a bike shop web site is www.hgnr.com p#8886094467
 
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 04:12 AM
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I gave up OCD detailing a long time ago. What I do on the plastic is use a produst like Black again and use a soft detail brush to work it in and work out the wax. As this is done you need to wipe as you brush to remove the residue. I have good luck doing this on the trim on my black SAAB.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 09:41 AM
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Here's one thing to try. We've had success with it anyway. Buy Wesley's Bleche White (or other reputable) tire cleaner. CAREFULLY apply it to the trim WITHOUT getting it on the painted surfaces. Not a major problem if you do, just get it off quickly. I'd suggest using a wipe of some sort as opposed to trying to spray it on. Do one at a time. Once it's on, let it sit a minute or two, then gently scrub it with a soft bristle brush. Don't overly scrub it, just enough to loosen the wax stuff. Then rinse. Also, if you go to a high pressure car wash, apply the White Wall cleaner and use the high pressure wand to blast the wax out of the pores. I caution you to use the wand at least 10 inches away from the trim. The pressure can actually cut into the plastic trim. That should leave you with a nice clean trim to apply any protectorant you wish.

Let us know how it goes.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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Use like branded products?

When I wanted to wax my car for the first time someone suggested Autoglym since the products work well with each other. Despite my best efforts I still got wax on the trim. At the time I probably should have use the Autoglym's bumper care product http://www.autoglym.com/enGB/product...6VQ=EM&Range=1 but instead I just left it hoping it would wear off...8 months later the streaks were still there. Eventually I bought the bumper care product and it took 2 applications but the wax streaks are now gone. I like the Autoglym brand but maybe getting something for the trim from Maguires would help.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 10:35 AM
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Once the residue is off, I think one might consider using a finish that doesn't leave any white residue. There are several I'm sure....I use Klasse.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 07:03 PM
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I've gotten NXT off of my plastic with Meguiars
HEAVY DUTY VINYL CLEANER #39 and a tooth brush. It may take some rubbing, but it does go away and doesn't come back. I've also successfully used it when I've accidentally gotten NXT on the ruber around the windows. Unless NXT 2.0 is much different than the original, this should work for you.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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I also use Black Wow and like others have said it comes off in time and the white shows again. I've done it with lots of elbow grease and little with the same effect.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 04:04 AM
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Once the residue is off, I think one might consider using a finish that doesn't leave any white residue. There are several I'm sure....I use Klasse.
i was told by a detailer that klasse AIO diluted a bit with water then brushed on to the white wax residue on the trim will take off the wax.

I've not had a chance to try this as I also use Klasse aio and sg
 
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 07:04 AM
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You could go the seriously OCD route and painter's tape your trim first.

I just try my best to not get wax on the trim. Then, I use Black Wow. I haven't had a problem with it.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 07:07 AM
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Even for us OCDetailers, taping is a major PITA... especially on the plastic trim. Tape doesn't stick to it very well because of the texture (and residual black wow). So you have to tape the paint just above the trim, meaning you're not protecting that paint that you just taped.

From here on out, I don't tape the trim. I Black Wow it heavily before polishing with the PC buffer. That keeps the polish from soaking into the plastic. Then I wipe down the plastic trim when I'm done, taking the excess Black Wow and the polish with it.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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UPDATE !
The Temperature in Indiana was above 40 today so I made a strong solution of Dawn Dish soap and used a soft bristle brush. After brushing for 30 min. I rinsed. As it was drying I soon realized it was "Alot" better, but not acceptable. So I scrubbed again and then didn't rinse, just kept the plastic wet with the dawn solution. After 20 min of this with light scrubbing just to keep it wet, I rinsed Real good.

Ta Da! it looks real good!
So in short, alot of time and dawn WILL remove All of Mequiar's NXT Tech Wax 2.0 from Plastic Trim. (Total Start to Finish time for ALL the Trim was 1hr 15 min).
Now I feel my OCDetailing Karma is happy .
 
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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Don't mean to rain on your parade, but how about giving us a report in about two weeks.

I've had temporary success with other products but the white marks reappeared after a couple of days or a couple of weeks.

I ordered a bottle of that stuff rwkeating recommended and it arrived in the mail today. I'm going to try it tomorrow and I'll give an immediate report and a two-week report. Stay tuned.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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OK Sounds like a plan.
I'm hoping it is all gone so it dosn't need to be "Covered"
 
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