Tell me about it... covering it only works for a few weeks.

Good luck to you. Hope you got rid of the white marks !

 

HUH?

 

What are you Huh-ing.

Maybe we can un-Huh you.

 

CR&PW&JB, I'll post pix soon of my trim cleaned with PW of wax/polish stains removed, and 3 months, still gone. Yes, my trim looks sad, because I did a 50/50 tape line to show what it looked like before and the after.

As for others, anytime you apply any "dressing" to your trim, the white will appear to disappear. Water will do this as well, that is until is evaporates, and that's simply because the white stains haven't gone anywhere.

Unless the "dressing" is also a cleaner, it will only mask white stains, it won't have any ability to remove them to prevent them from returning.

As for BW masking stains...I suppose it depends entirely on your application technique. I've always said that the cleaners in BW are mild, so you really need to use an abrasive applicator like a shop rag or the sewn edge of a MF Skinny applicator to remove the stain. Using that without BW is ALOT harder, than using it with BW, so obviously the cleaners are doing something.

Another thing, when you're wiping, check your applicator. Is it turning white or black?? That's the stain coming off. If it's not transferring to your applicator, then you aren't removing anything.

So if you use a smooth applicator like a foam pad or a microfiber towel, regardless how hard you rub or how much effort you use, you're spinning your wheels as that's now how it works.

Another thing, polish and wax residue are different stains. Wax residue tends to be difficult to remove once it's cured and set into the trim. Polish residue mostly washes off with warm water, unless it's been buffed into the trim with a machine buffer...then it reacts similar to wax stains..it takes an abrasive action to remove from the pores of the trim.

I know people hate to tape...it's a necessary evil for me because it prevents more things than just stained trim...prevents polish from getting between plastic/rubber and paint panels (the cracks), prevents melting plastic/rubber trim from the high speed buffer to name a few. For the average Joe, taping is used strictly for preventing stains so PW (Pre-Wow) should be what you're looking for.

Richard

 

Stop teasing us with the PW talk, Richard. Sounds like you're going to deprive us of it for a while yet.

I used some of the Vinyl Cleaner #39 yesterday, along with a toothbrush and it did a nice job removing the white from the trim. Hoping it stays gone, unlike my experience with every other product I've used. I'm optomistic because this worked better than the other stuff.

 

Hahaha I do it for you!!! lol.

Yep #39 is what I used to recommend..but it still requires too much effort, lol.

 

Tell me about it... I spent 90 minutes doing the four wheel arches. And the toothbrush probably won't go a good job of removing tarter from now on.

 

Ok I know the plastic looks faded and it is because there is no PW on it..and this is my test piece. I PW'd the right portion of it well over 3 months ago. I left a bit of wax residue along the top of the arch closest to the paint so you can see how far the residue extended. This was probably about 20 seconds of light rubbing.

 

Hmmmmm.... that's interesting, Richard.

I spent a lot of time with the #39 cleaner yesterday and this morning the only place the white wax residue came back is right along the edge by the paint... just like in your photo.

Now, I've used your BW many times, rubbing it in for far more than 20 seconds and never have it hide the wax residue for more than about three weeks.

I've given up on it for that purpose but still love it to temporarily restore the black finish. I'll continue to use it periodically. It's surely better than Wizard's or Meguiar's or any of the other trim treatment products. But for wax/polish prevention/removal... HURRY UP WITH THE PW !!!!

 

It's pretty hard to clean that portion off unless you tape the paint or do the wax removal from the trim before you do your wax..otherwise you strip the wax off there. Course in my case, I intentionally left that there so you can see how far the wax residue extended.

With BW, you only rubbed 20 seconds???? I probably spend a minute rubbing or more and that's with a red shop towel thats rough. That's the only way the residue is going to come off and it removes it, not masks it. One day we're gonna have to meet so I can show you what I do, lol.

Richard

 

No... I said I rubbed for **far more** than 20 seconds, in response you your statement that you only worked it for 20 seconds. Actually, I worked the BW into the trim for about two minutes in the worst spots, about 45 seconds to a minute in the less-stained spots.

Anyway, I'm pretty happy with what #39 has done and I'll stick with that until your PW is ready.

 

Sorry I read that too fast...ok that's cool. I'll let you know when I know so you can grab the first one, lol.

Richard

 

I'll be waiting impatiently.

 

Update......
It rained pretty good yesterday, and it was real nice today, and the white marks are still gone. Although I intend to give more reports of the status, I still stand by my initial findings. I feel the Mequiar's NXT residue marks are gone, not Hidden, or Covered.
BUT....I will attempt to remain open minded and allow my parade to be "Rained" on. Maybe it will reappear. Maybe it won't.
I will not add or apply any other products for at least 2 weeks just so I am sure.

 

Excellent !!

I got 90 percent, or so, of the white stuff of my plastic trim Saturday.

I'll report back in a couple of weeks. Let's hope both of us have found a solution.

 

hmm ... I get very good results using original Windex with Ammonia, preferably the Commercial kind. And I am a slob when applying wax.

 

Try using a non-abrasive ( not gritty feeling ) hand cleaner with Aloe. Like what you would use to clean your hands after working in garage. Truckers have been doing this on the plastic bumpers on semi's for years.. cleans and protects

 

For about $4, I recommend using Black Magic Foam tire shine or another brand of your choice.

I spray it on a cloth and wipe it on the black trim.
It keeps bright for a month. This is also how I took the wax off the trim from the last wax job.

 

Update......
It has been 14 days since using dish soap and only a few minor spots reappeared. So in my opinion this is a fix , not a Coverup
I plan to do the procedure again and fix the overlooked area with more attention.
Has anyone else tried this and if so what are your results?


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You're soaking in it

 

I did wax removal on my dad's truck last weekend because last time I waxed it I didn't tape and although my original application of BW masked it, it came back a few weeks after I left. What I found actually seemed to work was putting the BW on with a MF applicator pad, and then using my fingers for deep cleaning. My fingertips still hurt and you'll have a balck thumb by the end but a lot of dirt, grime, and wax were worked out this way and I didn't have any BW getting on the paint or in places I didn't want it.

I just finished my car and did a lot of taping, it was a lot of work but 30 minutes of taping sure seemed a lot easier than 30 minutes of scrubbing.

 

Ive tried a few things to get the wax off the plastic trim and nothing completely removes it, it will only cover it up with black polish.
Ive read a few things about the pink eraser. I used it and it works PHENOMENAL! Quick, cheap, easy. No more wax on the trim.
Also, I read to use turtle wax ICE or ULTRA GLOSS and it will not stain your trim anymore. I have yet to use it though.

 

Pre-Wow removes embedded wax/polish residue in seconds and it's permanent. It works on all surfaces. It also doesn't abrade the surface like the magic erasers. I just had a tough cleanup on a 2007 Audi A6 with a variety of surfaces to treat, from the windshield cowling to the rough texture underbody coating to the windshield wiper arms and blades to the rubber seals around all the windows. PW removed splatter from a bad detailer easily and quickly. Btw the PW mentioned in an earlier post on this thread from 2009 was an earlier version that wasn't as effective as the current production version.

 

I haven't had a chance to try Black WOW yet... I have been using a water based tire shine spray.. it doesn't collect much dirt when dry...

But I did have an issue when I over filled my gas tank...cleaned the plastic right up....
Might want to try a little gas on a rag to remove wax but no smoking please...

 

[quote=NYC-JCW;3255823]I haven't had a chance to try Black WOW yet... I have been using a water based tire shine spray.. it doesn't collect much dirt when dry...

So good to read that someone else uses tire shine on the trim. When I have the bottle out doing the tires it's a quick and simple step to do it all at the same time.