R50/R53 :: Hatch Talk (2002-2006) Cooper (R50) and Cooper S (R53) hatchback discussion.

R50/53 MINI Shock Absorber Improvement

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 05-15-2003, 02:05 PM
BMWNA's Avatar
BMWNA
BMWNA is offline
3rd Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 222
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I’m with MINI USA. We’re so sorry to read you are concerned about the improvement to the MINI Cooper and MINI Cooper S shock absorbers. MINI USA strives for a balance between customer satisfaction and continued improvements to our car.

We know our owners treasure that Go-Kart like handling, so we devoted months of engineering time to address your requests and still deliver the performance you expect. The revised suspension set-up will allow for a more compliant ride, yet it will maintain your car's outstanding handling characteristics. Your MINI will handle as magnificently as ever.

The earlier suspension was not faulty in any way. This evolution is merely an improvement. MINI USA recognizes that superb handling is a key feature, and we assure you that the new suspension will deliver a very satisfying performance.
 
  #2  
Old 05-15-2003, 02:09 PM
sram24's Avatar
sram24
sram24 is offline
3rd Gear
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 202
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Can you provide any hard numbers on how this "new suspension" handles compared to the Sport Suspension Plus on the S?

I can certainly attempt to trust that MINI has best intentions to ensure that the handling is not affected, but most people will not be convinced my words.


 
  #3  
Old 05-15-2003, 02:19 PM
MG-BGT's Avatar
MG-BGT
MG-BGT is offline
5th Gear
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,057
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hello MINI Division,

thanks for providing feedback on an issue that appears to be important to many owners, and most of all future owners.
As posted by some, it is certainly possible to improve a suspension, tweak it some more. However, many of us are concerned about this for two reasons:

1) we have heard that this change will apply to the North American market only. Is this true, and if so, why would an improvement not be made available to other markets?

2) The timing of this release, after the JDP survey results, and the statement that this was a response to complaints about a stiff ride, also contributed to the worries of some of us MINIacs.

Could you address the above two points?

On an unrelated issue:
could you enlighten us on the chances of MINI addressing the windshield issue:
cracks (which supposedly are not an issue on 03 models but have been reported by many 03 owners), as well as the soft glass resulting in many chips.

Thank you in advance!


 
  #4  
Old 05-15-2003, 02:30 PM
qamper's Avatar
qamper
qamper is offline
1st Gear
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I can't tell you how upset that I am. I really thought of cancelling my order because of this and looking for a used one. I ordered a Cooper "S" because it has a stiff ride and suspension. This is absolutely ridiculous. Even though I'm keeping my order now I'll have to change shocks to get the ride I, and apparently a heck of a lot others, ride that I desire. Squishy, soft ride is people who buy Lincolns or Cadillacs.

This has felt like an arrow piercing my enthusiasm and anitcipation for my "S". Fix the windshield problem but don't mess with the ride!
 
  #5  
Old 05-15-2003, 02:35 PM
rob_lewis's Avatar
rob_lewis
rob_lewis is offline
2nd Gear
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Cedar Park, TX
Posts: 124
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
It's wonderfully refreshing to know that the word is getting out and that MINI is listening. However, I, myself am concerned about several issues:

1) If the change is that much better, why are you not changing ALL MINI's? Just a release to the North American owners will either dissappoint the North American owners or upset everyone else.

2) Why were future owners not informed? I test drove a MINI and ordered based on that test drive. You have information on everyone that would/is affected. Some type of notification should have been in order. Now, I will be getting a car that does not handle like I expected.

3) Although J.D. Powers is a reputible company, it should be obvious by now that there is a very large database of users that you could have surveyed before making this change......

-Rob
 
  #6  
Old 05-15-2003, 02:42 PM
sram24's Avatar
sram24
sram24 is offline
3rd Gear
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 202
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Right on.

I am in the same boat as the last two posts. Actually having serious second thoughts about ordering my MCS tomorrow.

I would like to know from a numbers standpoint, how this will affect my handling.


 
  #7  
Old 05-15-2003, 02:46 PM
par4bmw's Avatar
par4bmw
par4bmw is offline
2nd Gear
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 117
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If you really found a way to provide a softer ride and keep handling equal by just changing the shock absorbers, kudos to BMW. I find this hard to believe since it is only being done in NA. A change in suspension design, sure, but absorbers only?
 
  #8  
Old 05-16-2003, 01:14 PM
BMWNA's Avatar
BMWNA
BMWNA is offline
3rd Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 222
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm with MINI USA. A few of you are asking whether or not this improvement is world wide or just offered in the USA. FYI, the shock absorber improvement will be in all new MINIs worldwide. Again, we want to reassure you that this change will in no way effect the unrivaled handling inherent in the MINI Cooper and Cooper S. If you have any questions, you can always reach us at (866) ASK MINI.

 
  #9  
Old 05-16-2003, 01:19 PM
Gabe's Avatar
Gabe
Gabe is offline
6th Gear
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,620
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
>>I'm with MINI USA. A few of you are asking whether or not this improvement is world wide or just offered in the USA. FYI, the shock absorber improvement will be in all new MINIs worldwide. Again, we want to reassure you that this change will in no way effect the unrivaled handling inherent in the MINI Cooper and Cooper S. If you have any questions, you can always reach us at (866) ASK MINI.
>>

Thanks for the information. I'm begining to feel a little more at ease about this.
 
  #10  
Old 05-16-2003, 04:03 PM
BadApple's Avatar
BadApple
BadApple is offline
2nd Gear
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
MiniDivision, what build months did this change go effect in?
 
  #11  
Old 05-16-2003, 04:25 PM
Yucca Patrol's Avatar
Yucca Patrol
Yucca Patrol is offline
Coordinator :: Alabama Motoring Society & South East
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Burning-Ham Alabama
Posts: 10,170
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
MINIDivision: Great to have you come on and let us know about this. I already have my MINI, but so many people seemed so concerned and it is great to hear some positive news that this is an improvement and will not decrease handling characteristics for the newer cars.

Maybe I should have waited. . . .tee hee!
 
  #12  
Old 05-16-2003, 04:33 PM
letsmotor's Avatar
letsmotor
letsmotor is offline
4th Gear
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Motor City, Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 541
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Apparently , you can make the suspension more compliant yet just as stiff when required. I have never experienced it firsthand but I always hear about how this or that aftermarket suspension can lower the ride height or make a car handle constant smaller bumps more smoothly or stiffen up at higher suspension loads. Something like progressive rate springs or coilovers or something like that.

I have never been interested because it must cost so much to replace the whole suspension like that. Plus I would want some nice big wheels and big brakes as well. This could all cost...what...$5000...with labor...oh well...I can dream.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Toolman
R50/R53 :: Hatch Talk (2002-2006)
8
01-20-2016 06:50 AM
iclancy82
General MINI Talk
4
08-11-2015 09:35 AM
nomar116
R56 :: Hatch Talk (2007+)
6
08-10-2015 11:24 PM
ECSTuning
Vendor Announcements
0
08-07-2015 08:02 AM
PelicanParts.com
Vendor Announcements
0
08-04-2015 02:45 PM



Quick Reply: R50/53 MINI Shock Absorber Improvement



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:57 AM.