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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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How's the Cooper S clutch?

Sorry if its been aked before but do you guys consider the Cooper S manual a hard or easy car to drive standard in? I currently don't own a Cooper yet for I am doing some research. I've been driving auto for the past 3 years. Driven manual a few times. Easy car to learn in?
 
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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Its widely considered one of the easy cars to learn in. But I'd say rent a beater, beat up that clutch until you get the hang of it then return the rental and go take delivery of your MINI.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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The MCS clutch is so easy IMHO it practically shifts itself. Mine needs more gas in 1st than any other clutch I have driven but other than that it's a total breeze
 
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Jahnnie
Sorry if its been aked before but do you guys consider the Cooper S manual a hard or easy car to drive standard in? I currently don't own a Cooper yet for I am doing some research. I've been driving auto for the past 3 years. Driven manual a few times. Easy car to learn in?
Not only would I consider it easy, I would also consider it sleazy, breezy and diseasey!

Seriously though, yes. It's pretty responsive but there's still some margin for error. It's certainly not a car that lurches and surges if you don't coordinate clutch release and applying gas perfectly.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 07:16 PM
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Easy and most of all, a RIOT to drive. The S has enough power that it is also forgiving if in too high a gear. You really can't be in too low of a gear, it just makes beautiful music
 
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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Also, you may want to go with an '05 or '06 as the gearing is a little shorter. Not sure about the new '07's.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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It's very easy. I've had my MCS for just over a month and it's been a lot of fun and a good learning experience so far. I had never driven a stick before I bought it. After a day of driving with someone who knew how to drive a manual, I was ready to learn on my own. Driving a manual is just different, so it takes time and patience to get used to. And it is definitely more fun.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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i drove stick when i was a teenager... and then didn't drive it for over 17 years (lived in NYC and when i did drive, drove automatic). the MINI clutch is definitely an easy clutch, but I do still get some lurching if i'm not concentrating or being careful. And I definitely have to give it decent gas to get out of first -- although, for me, some days i'm more in the zone than others and it is very smooth.

2nd to 3rd gears and onward is a pleasure and lots of power.

I've definitely wondered if I should have just gotten the automatic, but I think this car is meant to be driven as a manual. the power of the manual is quite fun.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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Easy progressive action with the clutch, very positive feeling gearbox, this makes the MCS an easy shifter. However, there is only a 1.6 ltr. powerplant, so you've got to keep the revs up (very little torque). The MCS is more akin to driving a motorcycle than a V8 powered piece of Detroit iron. Takes a little getting used to, but once you do, you'll be very, very glad you went with a manual MCS.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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I never noticed it before, but it takes a good bit of clutch slip to get going in first right? This is my second Cooper S and I just now noticed it.

Oh yes and my sister who I have been trying to teach stick for the last four years (off and on of course) could not drive my 03 Cooper S to save her life but had no problem in my 69 MGB and my 06 Cooper S. I don't even want to tell you about her with the BMWs....
 
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 04:02 AM
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My JCW is the first manual car I have ever owned. Before that, I put over 83k miles on a '04 Cooper w/ a CVT. I had two lessons before I drove off in my JCW, once with a friend, and once with the MA in the dealership parking lot!

It's been about 3 weeks now, and while I' m not perfect, I'm doing just fine! It was a *lot* easier to learn than I was expecting!


-Paul!
 
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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One of the easiest clutches I've ever driven.
 
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