Tis curious as to why it is taking so long.

 

That's kind of a crazy rule if true - because every municipality has sections where the "state standard speed limit for type of throroughfare" is modified for good reason - school zones, sharp curves, or just local initiative. This means that you would need to research the specific roads you would be driving on before doing so - which is unreasonable and onerous.

I can appreciate that certain guidelines are generally applicable in most communities of a state - 25 mph in highly residential feeder streets, 35 in major municipal byways, 45 in roads connecting communities, and 55 in limited access highways - but there are so many departures from these guidelines that it would be impossible to rely upon them to drive by - and who would do such a thing? This sounds like a cheap attorney's "rule".

We all know that every community's speed trap is where there is a departure from the local guideline - and they nail you right after you stray into the new zone. My most memorable ticket was awarded when I was late for a meeting with the owner of the Crested Butte ski resort in Crested Butte, CO - I was flying down the road (55 mph) from Gunnison and crossed over the invisible boundary line of the town of Crested Butte. Surprise - speed limit drops to 25 in less than 50 feet... I don't remember much in the way of signs either but there was no arguing the ticket - the cruiser was poised and ready...

Bill

 

To the original poster:

Try posting this on cooperspeed.com's forums. Most cooperspeed members are in Texas, so maybe a friendly member is in the Kingston area.

Best of luck, I hope you win.

Rawhyde

 

sounds like the states should put up speed camaras for all of speed junkies like in England they have permanet mounted camaras and mobile camaras as well and all they do is mail you a ticket. they work day or night very bright flash

 

They might try getting a few of the, "the lights only been red for a few seconds", crowd also. Using turn signals is a thing of the past for at least half the drivers I see. With opinions like, "it was only 15 over, which I think was reasonable", it's obvious there is a problem.

I see no sign of too much enforcement of traffic laws. Around here it's pretty much do whatever you want. I think it contributes to road rage and to driving being a lot less enjoyable that it used to be.

 

Who got you, was it the Kingston Police or the NYS Troopers? I grew up in the area, sorry I cant help now (moved to DE). Its mainly going to depend on who got you and which judge you get. For a city its small town politics. Ever seen the movie Super Troopers? Same type of relationship between the Kingston police and NYS troopers.

Good luck with the ticket. For future reference watch out for RT 28, its crawling with traps, as is RT 273.

 

"I'm sorry, Bruce. These boys get that syrup in 'em, they get all antsy in their pantsy."

 

Rawhyde, thanks for the site. I'll try it out.

Geotek, it was the Ulster County Sheriff - 6 of 'em.

I've been trying to stay out of the fracass, but it may be appropriate to ask this question: Isn't the real issue safe driving. I've noticed most, but not all of the speed freaks have some sense of how to operate their vehicle. Many, but not all law abiding drivers - especially those who drive under the speed limit, don't have their heads in the game, notably when you try to pass one and they close the gap to the next car up so you have no place to pull in. I understand the need to live by society's rules (much of the time) but isn't there a larger issue here to consider?

 

I've never been caught for speeding, nor will I ever.

 

Since you ask a question, I would say "no". Almost everyone thinks they are one of, if not the best, driver on the road. The others are just obstructions that keep them from being able to fully utilize their superior driving skills.
The facts are that there are many unsafe vehicles, and more badly distracted drivers and more traffic than ever before. There is also, IMO, an almost universal ignoring of traffic laws and common courtesy by a majority of today's drivers. When you combine all of this, it results in road rage, both on the part of the self-appointed Mario Andrettis' and the old retired folks out for a leisurely drive. The solution is, in my opinion, to try and stay at least close to the posted limits, use your blinkers appropriately, stay to the right except to pass etc., and pay attention to your driving. All easy things do to, but often not done.

If you do these things you are part of the solution and not part of the problem.

You sound like a reasonable person and I wish you luck with the outcome of your ticket.

It was not your post that set me off on this issue.

 

If you like traffic enforcement, you'd love it in the NW corner of GA! We have more than too much. As a bonus, they are also rude, hateful, and disrespectful to the citizens they "protect and serve".

Within the last couple of years, two officers (in separate events) got arrested for DUI. One in his personal vehicle, and one in UNIFORM and in a POLICE CAR. (Both of these offenses occurred outside the officers' jurisdictions, otherwise there'd have been no arrest and news report.) We also had one or two arrested in a "sex with inmates" scandal recently. Nothing's perfect I guess, but at least we have vigorous traffic enforcement...

Seems to me, that if the goal was to issue tickets to truly unsafe drivers, they'd ride around and look for people weaving in and out of traffic, passing on hills, passing on curves, driving drunk and other similar types of offenses. Our local heroic enforcers typically hide in a parked car (often at the foot of a hill) with their eyes glued to a digital readout.

I really don't mean this to be an attack on you, I just wanted to point out that not all areas have competent and professional law enforcement. If your area does, then good for you. Those of us who aren't so fortunate, aren't overly enamored with law enforcers.

I have been lucky enough not to have been violated in a little over 23 years. Back in 83, I got slammed for 42 in a 25. I was actually going 35 (which is what I thought the speed limit was). The 280ZX that had just passed me on a double yellow line probably WAS going 42 (or more).

Rawhyde

 

You play, you pay. If you drive over the posted speed limit, understand the risk and will pay the fine. 126 mph on a public road is different. Should be jail time and confiscated liscense.
My experience (even when being pulled over) is the majority of LEO's are proffesional and just doing there job. As in any job, there are bad apples. Law enforcement also seems to attract a higher percentage of "ego's" but they are still the minority.
blue agave, your situation is different. If a sign isn't visible, it doesn't seem right. Hope you prevail.

 

It isn't that I think they're necessarily competent, more like non-existent. I prefer law emforcement to a complete lack of law enforcement.

Maybe we could have a cop-swap and both areas would be better served.