R50/53 10, 15, 20 years down the road.
The Allante was a fairly interesting car that GM managed to botch (As everything else they did) back in the late 1980's. It was a handsome car for its time. Its body was built by Pininfarina in Italy and I remember the Allante's ads boasting the fact that every new Allante body was transported from Italy into the US via a Boeing 747 Cargo jetliner.
I still see Allantes (Both hardtops and convertibles) in fairly good shape here in Miami. I don't know if there is a local club around though.
GM also made another handsome car at that time, the 2 seater Buick Allante. Don't know much about them, but at least shape wise they were handsome cars. Not sure if they were duds or not, but its been years since I have seen one on the road.
Oh and who could forget the 1989 Chrysler "TC" 2 seater by "Maserati"?
I still see Allantes (Both hardtops and convertibles) in fairly good shape here in Miami. I don't know if there is a local club around though.
GM also made another handsome car at that time, the 2 seater Buick Allante. Don't know much about them, but at least shape wise they were handsome cars. Not sure if they were duds or not, but its been years since I have seen one on the road.
Oh and who could forget the 1989 Chrysler "TC" 2 seater by "Maserati"?
I don't think mechanically that MINIs will survive exceptionally long. They'll be pretty good...but not exceptional. That said, I think owners will want to keep them for an exceptionally long time and that is important. If MINI's continue to fire our imagination and motoring passions there'll certainly be some die-hards keeping them going. The car itself has real staying power even if the mechanicals fade as one might expect. Twenty years from now I fully expect to see MINIs around.
Originally Posted by chows4us
Two cars like that came up to auction at Barrett. One a mustang, the other a Camaro, both more than 20 year old and, I think, Indy pace cars. Both bought and garaged for 20 years. The mustang didnt even sell at what the guy bought it for. The Camaro sold for a bit more but for far less than the cost of housing.
Don't know how to explain that other than mid-80 American cars just aren't collectable?
Don't know how to explain that other than mid-80 American cars just aren't collectable?
Originally Posted by gokartride
I don't think mechanically that MINIs will survive exceptionally long. They'll be pretty good...but not exceptional. That said, I think owners will want to keep them for an exceptionally long time and that is important. If MINI's continue to fire our imagination and motoring passions there'll certainly be some die-hards keeping them going. The car itself has real staying power even if the mechanicals fade as one might expect. Twenty years from now I fully expect to see MINIs around.
) The MINI will have very strong staying power even if they are a little more hassle.
I suspect that the MINI can easily reach 250,000 if properly maintained. Our cars will not be low maintenance vehicles btw, as they require regular replacement of "expendables" every 15 to 30k miles. As a for instance, the rotors and brake pads are designed to be replaced together (soft rotors are meant to wear away at a faster rate than the actual pads). If we pay to keep our little beasties in top condition, I foresee 350,000 to 400,000 with no problem.
Originally Posted by C4
Oh and who could forget the 1989 Chrysler "TC" 2 seater by "Maserati"?
Oh and on the very rare occasions I see a Caddy Allante it is still a head-turner....JB
Originally Posted by planeguy
Do you meant they sold for 10-15k? (i.e. what they sold for in 1985) or did they not sell for the inflated price that the fool paid for it, thinking that it was wortk 30-40k now?
This car is an 86 930 Turbo http://www.barrett-jackson.com/aucti....asp?id=181973
sold for far less than when new. Aftermarket exhaust, no engine detail, just a car driven around. Another one, an 87, sold for $20K, All OEM parts and detailed.
For the Mustang http://www.barrett-jackson.com/aucti....asp?id=182599
car sold new at $27K sold for $30K. Car sat in a garage for 12 years and the commentators said the $3K didn't pay for the electricity. Total waste of a car. 1 of 1000 made
For the Camaro, http://www.barrett-jackson.com/aucti....asp?id=181839
one of 500 made. Sold much better
Now why? Camaro is more popular than mustangs and rarity
How does it relate to MINI? Rarity is important.
Mustangs are ubiquituous. 124,000 sold in 1994. 1 in 500 is better than 1 in 1000. 2005 MINI sales 40000. MINI has a chance at being a collectable.
Originally Posted by MGCMAN
I suspect that the MINI can easily reach 250,000 if properly maintained. Our cars will not be low maintenance vehicles btw, as they require regular replacement of "expendables" every 15 to 30k miles. As a for instance, the rotors and brake pads are designed to be replaced together (soft rotors are meant to wear away at a faster rate than the actual pads). If we pay to keep our little beasties in top condition, I foresee 350,000 to 400,000 with no problem.
I guess that gives me a good reason to do a brake upgrade...
Originally Posted by MINIotaple
... Do our brake pads and rotors really need replacing after 15 to 30k miles? 

The price you pay for modern technology

Of course, you could buy these http://www.porsche.com/pccb/default.asp?market=PCGB
and they will outlast the car ... just dont ask the price.
Originally Posted by chows4us
Two cars like that came up to auction at Barrett. One a mustang, the other a Camaro, both more than 20 year old and, I think, Indy pace cars. Both bought and garaged for 20 years. The mustang didnt even sell at what the guy bought it for. The Camaro sold for a bit more but for far less than the cost of housing.
Don't know how to explain that other than mid-80 American cars just aren't collectable?
Don't know how to explain that other than mid-80 American cars just aren't collectable?
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